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Old 10-04-2008, 02:16 PM
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Default Bothriechis Schlegelii, eyelash vipers

This is a species we are considering I just wanted to run a few things past you knowledgeable folks...

Firstly can anyone whos kept this species could you list and husbandry issues (or similar) you've come across, any little quirks with this species?

A few more things:

as youngsters do they take defrost rodents readily? I'm expecting to have to live feed/scent for a bit.

Next up. Bites. Am I correct in thinking this has no species/venom specific AV? But certain AVs can be effective?

Do any keepers (obviously mainly UK keepers) have a decent bite protocol for this species? Ideally i'd like to compare three or four so I can check consistancy and completeness

Size, I have only ever seen neonates and sub adults, i've read up but was wondering in reality what kind of size do keepers find these achieve in captivity? does it differ much from the "textbook averages"? Basically would I be realistic to expect most female not to exceed 3ft and most males 2ft?

Also does colour form/locality have a bearing on size? It is the yellow colour form I have my heart set on I think, I have no idea if this has a bearing but I suspect not.

I know the average litter is 10-20, can anyone tell me exactly how the colour forms work when breeding? I would like 1.1 yellow and am not fussed if this (should I ever pair them) results in an all yellow litter or a mixed bag (ie all the greys and greens etc too)? Like I say, not fussed, not even sure if they will ever be bred BUT I must say I will find the idea of breeding more attractive If I know that by breeding my two yellows i'd stand a chance of hatchling myself a nice green specimine or two..


Right, husbandry. If this goes ahead planned is a pair of 2x2x2 cubes, is this enough height? Do they fair better in smaller or lager enclosures? I know they are arboreal and can be VERY arboreal but will too much viv space effect them in a negative way?

Thanks, feel free to point out any other interesting litte quirks this species has too.

Cheers for any help folks
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:25 PM
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brian (tigersnake) keeps them so maybe pm him or maybe he'd be good enough to share with all of us on this thread. i know nothing about them personally but brian has told me his are little buggers and they wait for you to open the glass then strike round the corner at you! sounds fun doesn't it!
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There is a costa rican A/V that would cover you, i always double check before i keep a species.

most of them do accept frozen from the start but you do need to fiddle and brush arount their P/H tail

youd be lucky to get 3ft

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I believe the anti venom is polyvalent ?
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aye I was expecting to have to do a bit of GTP-esque bum poking with the food!!

do you often see youngsters luring (caudal)?

and yes, i'm pretty sure the AV would be a poly, as i'm sure I read there definately isn't a species/venom specific one in this case.

and.. ARRGHH, but all the costa rican AVs I can find seem to be specifically designed to handle coral snakes!
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have now found it, yep definately polyvalent and costa rican! cheers.

As a bit of a brucey bonus that seems to cover a fair few species that float my boat
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ah i love eyelashes, good luck with them.
there stunning clever little fallas,

this is a momma after laying bout 3 hours previously, she is suprisingly mellow.

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fatalities are pretty low from the species.
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ah i love eyelashes, good luck with them.
there stunning clever little fallas,

this is a momma after laying bout 3 hours previously, she is suprisingly mellow.

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Mason, i have a mate that keeps these. they have a pant shittingly long strike range! they are also on my list. i'm sure i was told that they need quite a bit of air circulation so like computer fan over part of the vents perhaps? or am i talking crap?
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