cheers hun, i posted the names in my first post

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Hi all,
Please be aware, when they talk about " the genus Atrax : the Sydney Funnel-Web spider and it`s close relatives ", the "close relatives" belong to the genus Hydronyche, also DWA animals.
All the best,
Brian.

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Are that all the dwa spiders names? thanks everyone

il write them all down and give him the names.

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DOH!
psalmopoeus irmina Venezuelan sun tiger
brachypelma smithi Mexican red Knee
Brachypelma vagans
grammostola rosea, Chile Rose
lasidora parahybana, Brazilian Salmon Pink
phormictochtilus murinius (??) I think you mean Pterinochilus murinus, Orang Bitey Thing, Usumbara Starburst baboon
aphonopelma seemanni


All common T's, and nothing really untoward.The only "problem" child may be the OBT, very quick, very highly strung. L parahybana is a hair kicker and grows up to 10" across, good display spid tho'. P irminia are bloody quick too, nice looking spids.

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My Reptiles1.1.0 Corallus caninus option] 1.2.0 Boiga dendrophila dendrophila [option 0.1.0 Trimeresurus trigonocephalus 2.2.1 Morelia viridis (Aru, Wamena & Biak) 1.1.0 Viridovipera vogelli 1.1.0 Orthriopis taeinurus 0.1.0 Morelia amethystina 0.1.0 Hydrodynastes gigas 0.1.0 Boa constrictor imperator 0.1.0 Natrix natrix helvetica 1.0.0 Crotalus atrox 3.0.0 Furcifer pardalis (2 Ambilobe, 1 Nosy be)

Others0.1.0 cats 1.0.0 son (very expensive to keep)

there is a species of widow that lives wild down south. been recorded bites as far up as brighton, i think it was. the woman would ofdied if not for anti venom.

Crikey, didnt know that

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Hi Brian,

The issue of Hydronyche bring on the DWAA is a bit unclear, the wording used in the schedule is ambiguous:

Family Ctenidae:
The genus Phoneutria.
Wandering spiders.
Family Hexathelidae:
The genus Atrax.
The Sydney funnel-web spider and its close relatives.
Family Sicariidae:
The genus Loxosceles.
Brown recluse spiders (otherwise known as violin spiders).
Family Theridiidae:
The genus Latrodectus.
The widow spiders and close relatives.
Scorpions
Family Buthidae: All species.
Buthid scorpions.
Family Hemioscorpiidae:
The species Hemiscorpius lepturus.
Middle-Eastern thin-tailed scorpion.



Whilst it appears to include Hydronyche (which it should in my view) it may not. For example not all Theridiidae are scheduled. Only took government 5 years to conduct the review, but still managed to leave ambiguities – marvellous.

Hi Chris,
Yes, I agree, the wording is ambiguous. I was at the Australian Museum in Sydney 5 years ago, and all their species of Funnel- webs were under the genus Atrax, when I drew their attention to this, they said they would get round to changing it one day, but they were very busy.
I think when it is your job to educate people, you have a responsability to get the facts right.
I take it, that, if you asked your council if you could keep, say, Hydronyche formidabilis, you would be told you would need a DWAL
All the best,
Brian.

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False Widow.

One of which I have

Their is no member of the Theraphosa (Tarantula) family which is DWA. However their are spiders that are DWA.

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