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Old 17-04-2008, 06:53 PM
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Fair enough, I've never been tagged by either of the 2 atbs I've worked with, and one is a nasty bugger.

But yes, I totally agree, I know nothing will prepare me like the real thing
its just the mindset, I found when working with hots, it is different to working with even aggressive non venomous, deep down you know that its not gonna kill you, so when you have something that could it makes you even more careful I recon.
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its just the mindset, I found when working with hots, it is different to working with even aggressive non venomous, deep down you know that its not gonna kill you, so when you have something that could it makes you even more careful I recon.

Yeah defo Si, you dont really take as much care when handling Non Venomous...

Ive been tagged by Pythons, Boas etc...as i made mistakes that could be easyliy avoided...But ive never made a mistake with my rear fanged...Not yet anyways touch wood
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Old 17-04-2008, 07:58 PM
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its just the mindset, I found when working with hots, it is different to working with even aggressive non venomous, deep down you know that its not gonna kill you, so when you have something that could it makes you even more careful I recon.
definitely siuk, it does not compare. the fear and adrenaline rush you experience when hooking out your first viper or pinning your first gaboon is absolutely non replicable with a non venomous snake!
my two most aggressive snakes are my barneck scrub and my biak green tree python and they just do not compare!
i would try very to find someone to train you with real hots before you think about getting one, even if you have to travel a bit! after all, its your life on the line if things don't go right.
from my small experience with venomous training, there are many parts of the hobby you would not even think about unless someone experienced said it to you and it might be your ignorance of these things that get you tagged!
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experience has no substitute
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:27 PM
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Agreed. As I've mentioned once before, there's no substitute for the real thing. The speed and aggression of some elapids has to be seen to be believed, they can be seriously unpredictable. Plus having a large one thrashing about in a confined space can be... nerve-wracking.

For sheer eye-blurring strike speed and accuracy vipers (especially pit vipers like Eyelashes) are probably unmatched. They can look so calm and lazy most of the time and then - thwap! I think that's part of what makes them so dangerous. They can fool the unwary into being relatively tractable and then...

Being a true judge of distance is a must, and that can only come with experience with any given species.

And that's ignoring the bad-tempered little (and not-so-little) sods that are just always out to get you (I'm thinking things like Puffies - not that I've had any experience with them... but then again, not that I'd want to!)

Boids and Colubrids (even rear-fangs) just do not compare.
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Old 17-04-2008, 10:59 PM
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i was spraying one of pete blakes atheris ceratophora's a couple of weeks ago and it kept striking the end of the sprayer. if it was my finger i wouldn't have known untill it was way too late
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:07 PM
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Cool! I love Atheris, such unique-looking snakes. I hear they have rather unusual venom, not nice effects at all...
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:10 PM
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thats right and there is no specific antivenon but i will have myself a right little collection of atheris once my licence is approved
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Old 17-04-2008, 11:16 PM
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I've worked with some venomous before but as I am now living with my family I cannot justify keeping any truly "hot" snakes at this moment in time. Once I get a proper room fitted out I intend to get back into things like Vipera, Cerastes and the smaller Bitis (if I can find any). Would definitely also like Atheris and Bothriechis.
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when your over at our place on saturday i'll shut you in a room with our white lip and a snake hook and see how you get on. Shes like the exocet missile of the snake world.
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