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Old 10-05-2008, 07:09 PM
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It wouldn't bother me personally but I'd feel for those it did affect. I'm lucky to live in a state that has not passed any laws concerning exotic snakes venomous or non. Hopefully it stays that way but with Ar groups pushing bans I feel our hobby is endanger from Housewife's that have nothing better to do than stick their noses in everyone else's business.

The funny thing is there is rarely an incident concerning venomous or non venomous snakes. So with all the keepers across my state and no laws there are still no incidents. What's that tell you? Maybe the laws are pointless!
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:14 PM
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It wouldn't bother me personally but I'd feel for those it did affect. I'm lucky to live in a state that has not passed any laws concerning exotic snakes venomous or non. Hopefully it stays that way but with Ar groups pushing bans I feel our hobby is endanger from Housewife's that have nothing better to do than stick their noses in everyone else's business.

The funny thing is there is rarely an incident concerning venomous or non venomous snakes. So with all the keepers across my state and no laws there are still no incidents. What's that tell you? Maybe the laws are pointless!
i agree eric its mainly people totally unafected by snakes that are pushing for these new laws and restrictions
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:14 PM
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The D.W.A.A was set up to prevent harm coming to the general public NOT the owner so no, I don't think they should be, as they're not gonna get loose, go on a rampage and attack everyone. No deaths in the UK as yet and only 20 in the last TEN YEARS in the US. Pretty much everything else on the planet has a higher human death toll.
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Old 12-05-2008, 03:47 PM
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As a keeper of Burms i can understand what people are saying but i think there are a few things to consider when deciding if large snakes should be put on the D.W.A.

Firstly what would you call large snakes.Some rat snakes etc have the capability to reach 9-10 feet in length should they go onto D.W.A?They are a larger snake but have a much smaller girth to them.

Secondly what happens to all the burms,boas,retics and condas that people already own but refuse to pay for the license or are not given the license for what ever reason?

Thirdly what is to stop any owner then selling offspring to just anyone what so ever as they can not find enough licensed peopleto sell to.

Look at firearms.You can get a license at pretty much any age.3 under 16's have been awarded the license in my area lately.Granted they are members of a firearms club BUT what is the illegal gun trade like at this present time?

Finally if they were to license large snakes where would it all end?Lets face it an iguana can do you a hell of a lot of damage if it is upset the same as a bosc monitor etc.License one would make way for the possibility of licensing more and more which i think would be extremely detrimental to our hobby.

Just my thoughts on this situation but definately something to seriously think about as this is a real possibilty within the reptile community.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:54 PM
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As a keeper of Burms i can understand what people are saying but i think there are a few things to consider when deciding if large snakes should be put on the D.W.A.

Firstly what would you call large snakes.Some rat snakes etc have the capability to reach 9-10 feet in length should they go onto D.W.A?They are a larger snake but have a much smaller girth to them.

Secondly what happens to all the burms,boas,retics and condas that people already own but refuse to pay for the license or are not given the license for what ever reason?

Thirdly what is to stop any owner then selling offspring to just anyone what so ever as they can not find enough licensed peopleto sell to.

Look at firearms.You can get a license at pretty much any age.3 under 16's have been awarded the license in my area lately.Granted they are members of a firearms club BUT what is the illegal gun trade like at this present time?

Finally if they were to license large snakes where would it all end?Lets face it an iguana can do you a hell of a lot of damage if it is upset the same as a bosc monitor etc.License one would make way for the possibility of licensing more and more which i think would be extremely detrimental to our hobby.

Just my thoughts on this situation but definately something to seriously think about as this is a real possibilty within the reptile community.
That's easy, they'd either pressurise the petshops to stop selling large frozen prey or ban breeding so they all eventually die off. Also nearly all petshops these days take the new owners names and addresses when specimens are bought. It would be easy for the government to step in and cause problems, fortunately there are many holes around it, personally I'd go to the Butchers and order a few rabbits that way. I know somepeople who have been looking after big snakes for 20 or 30 years, I'd be offended if I were one of those people who were suddenly told that they are incapable of raising such anaimals without a piece of paper.
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Old 13-05-2008, 03:46 PM
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Personally i dont think large snakes should be DWA, as many people know what they are getting themselves into before they buy.

Obviously they are certain exceptions to the rule !!!
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