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Old 13-05-2008, 11:51 PM
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Trimeresurus trigonocephalus IMO is a good starter. Non-lethal, no reports of necrosis, fairly stable personality and not too big.
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Would it not be a better idea to use your tools with a non venomous snake. Then once you are a dag hand with your hooks and gentle giants etc, moving onto a hot wont be as lethal if you do fumble with that elapid coming up your hook?
Just think that if you practice with your non hots as a beginner if you make a mistake your not going in a blue and red flashing light taxi.

For first hot I would chose one of the vipers purely because your not faced with the bag of tricks that an elapid is going to bring to the party.




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I'm talking starters for first time keepers learning on their own as alot of us do.

There are many factors to take in for first time keepers they are often very nervious and unsure of their skills with the tools they use. So to get their feet wet and idea of how it all works a slower snake would be a good starter.

A copperhead is not going to prepare you for a green mamba or a big diamondback.
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Old 19-05-2008, 11:44 PM
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Would it not be a better idea to use your tools with a non venomous snake. Then once you are a dag hand with your hooks and gentle giants etc, moving onto a hot wont be as lethal if you do fumble with that elapid coming up your hook?
Just think that if you practice with your non hots as a beginner if you make a mistake your not going in a blue and red flashing light taxi.

For first hot I would chose one of the vipers purely because your not faced with the bag of tricks that an elapid is going to bring to the party.
yeah I see your point and you definately get alot of basic knowledge, but nothing really prepares you for the first time you actually have a seriously venomous snake on the end of the hook.
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I've always been told that Cobras, especially Monocled are not just aggressive, but are really smart, and are really hard to use a snake hook with.
Note, I haven't got a cobra. I have got a False Water Cobra, and his ok, he can get twitchy every now and again. Their Rear fanged and supposed to be about as venomous as a Timber Rattler, But I'm not really sure if i believe it. But its really not one you want to get bit by
Mangrove are supposed to be alright as long as you handle them in the day.
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I know what your saying about that knot in your stomach while you have a bit of midwest hook between you and unimaginable pain. Its like anything though practice for the event enough when it happens your ready.
Cobras.......The Monocled that I had some experience with was a screaming lunatic, and fast! As for handling on a hook its my understanding that Elapids arent bests handlers on hooks but if you use the correct lenght hook, then "hook 'n tail" method can be safely used. Cobras will sit and watch you and work out how best to attack you. They are very very alert snakes.
Compared to some I have very little experience with hots but I have had my eyes opened.

Hey SiUK, how about the first time that you pin and pick up a hissing growling bundle of Bitis Gabonica - gaboon viper, hows that for relying on your skills? One of my favourate hots that and Bitis Nasicornus
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luckily I have never had to pin down an angry gaboon, although I have worked with one, and it sounded like a lorry tire deflating, I pinned my little V.ammodytes the other day, with a piece of sponge though. but that hardly counts.
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