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13-05-2008, 02:22 AM
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Copperhead Opinions
I was talking with a friend tonight about copperheads and Whether or not they make good starters.
I don't personally feel they make good starters other than the fact you are not likely to die if you receive a bite. On the other hand they don't hook all that well and are constantly on the move typically aggressive. I can think of a few other species that would make better starters while the venom is more toxic the snakes are easier to work with. We just decided to make this post to see what everyone else thinks. I'm looking for opinions from people that own or have owned copperheads not from prospectors. Thanks Eric G.
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13-05-2008, 02:30 AM
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i think eric, that they make fine starters for someone looking for a first venomous... but that person needs to feel that he is up to the challenge of not getting sloppy. most at least in my experience from having a few here is that mostly they are laid back but will get snotty right quick if the keeper isn't cool... an experienced keeper of snakes of a variety of species and dispositions are a prerequisite. yes, i think that by how they will be still and not get too big or isn't a racer in speed, makes a fine and fun first hot. maybe i'm biased because i can get them here fairly easily but i say yes... i've had 5 or six over the years and two while a teen. two had babies.
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13-05-2008, 02:41 AM
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In my limited experience with a couple of copperheads, one that I have owned myself but only for a short while but I think I have got the measure of her to an extent.
I would say they dont make great first hots, other than like you said the fact that they arnt likely to kill you although people have died and thats not forgetting permanent disfigurement that can happen from bites, alot of people have serious tissue damage lost fingers even lost use of hands from bites, but thats not often talked about or records kept like they are of death. My copperhead is very bitey, extremely quick to bite in fact, and constantly keeps me on my toes, which is a good thing, but also a bad thing, my vipera ammodytes for example is the complete opposite good on the hook never strikes, in fact not once have I seen it strike, but is that a good thing?? it could breed complacency so at the same time I remember this and it also keeps me on my toes but in a different way but someone else could get complacent. My opinion is if all copperheads are like mine and the one I have been around then no they dont make great first hots, there are other non lethal hots that would perhaps be better suited.
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13-05-2008, 02:41 AM
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Habu didn't you also get bit by one of these copperheads?
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13-05-2008, 02:50 AM
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yes i did. that is why i stated that " an experienced keeper of snakes of a variety of species and dispositions are a prerequisite." i was very young then... i didn't have the disipline to follow my own rules and common sense. but if you are used to non-venomous snakes, are comfortable with biters and have self displine to never get sloppy then they are great... i didn't make the grade and that's why i got nailed... been 30 years or so and it's never happened since. you can't take things for granted with any venomous snake... a mild one will ruin your weekend!  
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13-05-2008, 03:28 PM
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mine is pretty snappy and doesnt ride a hook too well so there are definately less aggressive easier to handle hots out there imo
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13-05-2008, 03:41 PM
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yes... i'm just used to copperheads. my venomus experience is limited to a few rattlers and the like.... stuff i can catch... i've never bought a hot.. i was going to, an eastern diamondback but that was put on hold....
what do people here on the forum suggest for a beginner hot? (as if there were such a thing)... i'm curious to know...
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13-05-2008, 03:45 PM
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13-05-2008, 03:59 PM
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I don't recommend a first hot typically but I have found some species that are alot more laid back than a copperhead but on the other hand the venom is more potent in some of these guys. So potent venom less likely to get tagged or mild venom more likely to get tagged hmmm.
Here's a few that come to mind: Panamint Rattlers Pygmy rattlers Slender hog nose vipers Desert horned vipers
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13-05-2008, 04:02 PM
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pygmy's are cool...
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