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Old 07-07-2008, 05:23 PM
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I have.

The guy at the shop (the one the council know) is a true expert been doing it since he was 16, he keeps caiman, adders, cobras e.t.c and his shop is very aptly named 'predators' lol.

He said he will be happy to give me and the family a few free handling, tutoring sessions to get the show on the road as it were.

Im not taking it lightly by any means. Im getting info first. I certainly wont be having anything venomous for a few months/year or so until I know i am gonna be ok with them.

Our snake room already has spring loaded hinges and locks so the door shuts and locks if you forget to close it properly e.t.c so we would be pretty safe.
I've spoken to the guy at predators, and he wasn't willing to do any mentoring, just because it could go against his insurance.
But that might change if an when I get a dwa.
Cos as far as I know its really hard to get any mentoring in west yorkshire.
Shame really.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:28 PM
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Put an ad on here for a mentor...Thats what I did.... And this guy got back to me.... I know a few on here have done the same thing.... 400 Runner....Mark Elliot...Thats the way I would go.....
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:31 PM
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It is renewable on an annual basis, thats what the guy at the council told me.

Yeah am thinking of getting set up first e.t.c then getting the license sorted after that. I havent got up once from the sofa today as have been researching all bloody day lol.

Will do that me thinks!

I researched all the time without ever touching a venomous snake for over a year that was the research planning stage I already had learned about them before just not with the sole intention of keeping them, it really isnt something to be taken lightly, think about it carefully mate
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:11 PM
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mentoring, is something which is hard as many people dont want the risk of a trainee being bitten, I know marie and rich do training which might be a good idea, its funny, it strikes me as if one wanted to parachute jump they would want you to learn how, yet they issue licenses without any requirements on trainning at all, on a subject which is at least as dangerous as parachute jumping. What a shame a acrredited course cant be run somewhere to allow people to get the basic training they need, which then councils could sign up to so they accept it as part of their licence requirements. Myabe thats something for tigersnake or rich and marie to do. Certainly there seems more and more people wanting to do this, and it worries me how many people do it without training, it would be good maybe if somebody was set up for hot keepers to work together, so various places around the country could be listed to do this
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Old 14-07-2008, 05:06 PM
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Our local council (Aberdeenshire) only mentions DWA once on their website to state that they exist. No further details.
Have emailed them to ask for policies and fees and will let you know.

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I have.

The guy at the shop (the one the council know) is a true expert been doing it since he was 16, he keeps caiman, adders, cobras e.t.c and his shop is very aptly named 'predators' lol.

He said he will be happy to give me and the family a few free handling, tutoring sessions to get the show on the road as it were.

Im not taking it lightly by any means. Im getting info first. I certainly wont be having anything venomous for a few months/year or so until I know i am gonna be ok with them.

Our snake room already has spring loaded hinges and locks so the door shuts and locks if you forget to close it properly e.t.c so we would be pretty safe.


looool im assuming your talking about richard at predators in shipley, i know him used to get some things from him he is a pretty good keeper, one thing i saw made me laugh tho he was on trisha once with his gf the store cleaner saying how he didnt love her. oh and once when i was in there he was trying to get a nile monitor out for cleaning it wriggled free and ran round the shop for ten minutes
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Old 19-07-2008, 03:39 AM
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Yeah ive been keeping and handling snakes e.t.c for a long time, i just never had a particularly large collection more due to size of house e.t.c

But yeah it does look like iv got a good postcode lottery lol.

The license is £142.50 and the vet coming to inspect is £200 so in total £342.50

Theyre sending me the forms in the post.

Its probably not that bad either cos they havent had a new DWA app for over 2 years round here, we dont have a particularly high population density in the rural village i live in lol.

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Hi all,

I looked into getting a licence, and also have a mentor.

When I looked into it 15 months ago it cost £75 pounds for the licence and £300 pounds for the vets visit which were at the time International Zoo Veterinary Group. I belive Johanna Storm was the vet used, specialist rep vet so she knows what she is doing.

The council stated that I must have PLI.

An escape proof room, I was going to use my internal garage, door bricked up and room made escapeproof.

The vivs had to be lockable and have toughened glass.

Also it had to have double door entry,and one door you could see through.

Fire extinguishers.

I also had to name the snake(s) I wanted.

So prices have changed a bit licence has gone up, but vets inspection gone down.

One thing I do no If they still use the same vets there is no way you would be granted a DWA licence if you did not measure up.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I get the impression that the DWA is a club and some existing members are not so keen on new keepers.

I think if anyone wants a DWA, has done all the things required plus research Has a mentor has got skills to handle snakes he she has as much right as anyone else to keep DWA snakes.

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Old 19-07-2008, 03:51 AM
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Please correct me if I am wrong, but I get the impression that the DWA is a club and you existing members are not so keen on new keepers.

I think if anyone wants a DWA, has done all the things required plus research Has a mentor has got skills to handle snakes he she has as much right as anyone else to keep DWA snakes.

slither61

Yeah I think that as well, although having said that, I have found keepers that have been really helpful and more than willing to help me out with anything I wanted to know and I appreciate the help of a select few people who I wouldnt be keeping now without there guidance.

But some people give the impression of a select club that no one has the right to belong to.
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i dont think thats true when I first learnt people were more than happy than happy to teach me and aid me. I think the same is true now, but some things have changed about the country we live in, with litigation on the increase, people are much more nervous about teaching, the only way we got the authorities to allow us to do it was coming up with health and safety policies and entrie criteria, so the council were happy we werent going to teach just anyone who turned up. Personally i feel this is a better way. The other part that does come into it in my opinion is, people these days seem in such a hurry to get to venomous, I cant think of any keepers i mix with who went on to venomous so quickly they all spent time with numerous non venomous species, its the way it was generally done,

I dont think anyone objects to anyone coming and learning this passion of ours, but sometimes the worry is there about bites and sometimes it feels that people underestimate what one is like. I wouldnt wish a bite on anyone, having seen it first hand , the worry the family goes through, anything we can do to minimize this is a good thing.

It is an interesting debate, and one with many sides, I personally like the florida system in linking hours of experience with a mentor to a license. but again, finding people willing to do it could be dificult. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out now that defra are making it easier to get licenses
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Yeah I think that as well, although having said that, I have found keepers that have been really helpful and more than willing to help me out with anything I wanted to know and I appreciate the help of a select few people who I wouldnt be keeping now without there guidance.

But some people give the impression of a select club that no one has the right to belong to.
Hi all,

Thanks for the backup SiUK, as you say some are only too willing to help these people are needed in the hobby.

Not the one with the negative attitudes, some very highly regarded DWA keepers have been killed so it just shows noone is exempt.

It is a shame that all this negative attitude cannot be redirected to helping new DWA keepers, the snake hobby needs all the help it can get from the anti's.

Happy herping

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