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Old 09-10-2009, 09:40 PM
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Just been reading the posts about the police etc and its not actually up to them to prosecute with regards to illegaly keeping DWA listed animals. The environment agency are the people that would have to put forward the evidence and a case to the police to prosicute. The police wouldn't be the first authority to get involved. Just thought i'd throw that in the mix.
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:20 PM
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I know of one case where a private snake keeper had a friend call around who brought another new friend along.... that third party saw two illegally held snakes (vipers) and then reported the keeper.....
The person making the report did not know what type of viper they where (he thought they might be White Lipped Tree Vipers). Even with this scant information a team was put together comprising the local council, police and a venomous snake specialist who travelled over 250 miles up to Scotland the day before.

The lady of the house seemed to take a rather long time to get dressed and come downstairs....the upstairs reptile room was searched and nothing was found..... but the lady of the house seemed to be hovering near the bedroom...... a look under the bed revealed a plastic box with a pair of Atheris inside....... yes it probably only took the lady 10 seconds to dash into the bedroom and hide those snakes but the Policeman had read her body language and knew she was hiding something.

If a person calls the Police they may tell them to contact the Local Council as they are normally responsible for dealing with DWA issues. The local authorities may then ask and pay for the police assistance, vet attendance fees and specialist help which may amount to thousands of pounds. Think about it, the local council hear that someone is keeping dangerous animals on their patch, of course they are going to investigate, it human nature and probably more interesting/exciting than raiding the Sunday market for pirate DVD’s

Times have changed, with far more people using forums, u-tube, facebook etc. It is probably easier than ever to investigate what people are up to.

I’m just trying to illustrate the time, effort and expense local authorities are prepared to go to in dealing with illegally held dangerous animals.
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Old 10-10-2009, 10:49 PM
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Lets not forget the original post is wanting to report someone for keeping a dangerous scorpion at the end of the day its far too easy to import these scorpions from europe and that is what needs sorting regarding ilegal keeping of DWA inverts.
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Actualy I'm not sure if the police are obligated to act if a member of the public makes a formal complaint. Perhaps Ian14 could advise on that one?
The DWAA is one of those rare Acts of Parliament in which councils have primacy to deal with. I will double check however as far as I am aware, this is an Act which the local authority have a responsibility to enforce, not the police. I am aware however, that the preferred option in any illegal collections is for the owner to surrender the animal/s.
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Old 17-10-2009, 01:21 AM
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If someone did not want to pay extorionate fees for a DWAL could they not just cut corners by getting a Pet Shop Licence? the fees are not quite so bad for this.
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If someone did not want to pay extorionate fees for a DWAL could they not just cut corners by getting a Pet Shop Licence? the fees are not quite so bad for this.
do pet shops not need a DWA to sell DWA animals?
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Old 17-10-2009, 01:37 AM
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No they can keep and sell DWA under the Pet Shop Licence although not everyones terms will be the same.
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Old 31-10-2009, 01:04 AM
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actually, you can only keep dwa on a pet shop licence if the pet shop licence has a dwa entitlement on it. some PSL's have, some don't. for example, Horsham district council offer a PSL with a dwa entitlement on it for £73.50 per annum, but next door in adur district, a psl will cost £67 with no dwa entitlement on it. If you wish to have a dwa entitlement in adur it has to be a seperate DWAL which will cost you;

Vertebrates – 1
st species: one animal 610.90 Non-Business
Each additional species 360.00 Non-Business
Each additional animal 60.00 Non-Business
Invertebrates – 1
st species up to 50 animals 360.00 Non-Business

Each additional species 30.80 Non-Business

PER YEAR!

Its disgusting! When I asked them why its so expensive, they replied "we don't know why and no we will not alter the price."

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actually, you can only keep dwa on a pet shop licence if the pet shop licence has a dwa entitlement on it. some PSL's have, some don't. for example, Horsham district council offer a PSL with a dwa entitlement on it for £73.50 per annum, but next door in adur district, a psl will cost £67 with no dwa entitlement on it. If you wish to have a dwa entitlement in adur it has to be a seperate DWAL which will cost you;

Vertebrates – 1
st species: one animal 610.90 Non-Business
Each additional species 360.00 Non-Business
Each additional animal 60.00 Non-Business
Invertebrates – 1
st species up to 50 animals 360.00 Non-Business

Each additional species 30.80 Non-Business

PER YEAR!

Its disgusting! When I asked them why its so expensive, they replied "we don't know why and no we will not alter the price."

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