Why are you stating something that you clearly know nothing about? Boomslang monovalent antivenom is one of the most effective anitvenoms beings produced. If you read through any bite reports from this species where antivenom has been administered, you will see that the antivenom is highly effective and works very quickly, even when administered a long time after the bite.

If your looking for advice and mentoring, then please fire away with any questions you may have. There are plenty of experienced keepers who visit this forum who may be able to help. But there is definately no need for you to try and make yourself look more intelligent than your are by stating incorrect facts. You already tried to hand out advice on copperheads by stating 'A Copperhead will just generally sit there untill you start agrivating it'. Exactly how may have you worked with for you to justify handing out this advice? And you then went on to say that copperheads are not DWA.....

I know that many people are getting bored sensless by the 'arm-chair experts' that routinely hand out incorrect advice on this part of the forum. No wonder its going down the pan...

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Ok.....No need to be rude. Thankyou.

We all make mistakes

First off, i would like to say how much i appreciate your PM calling me a 'complete and utter dick'. That just goes to show how immature you actually are, not a good start for a budding venomous keeper. You also mentioned that i made you look stupid. If you dont want to look stupid, dont give out rubbish and incorrect advice.
I do not feel the comments i made were unjustified. The amount of people that come on this section giving out advice when they have never seen a venomous snake is ridiculous, I would not go on to the lizard section spouting off incorrect information that i dont know anything about.

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This thread worries me... I've been in the hobby of keeping reptiles for over 20 years and would never advise anyone who has had no experience in keeping snakes to jump in and start with a venomous collection, or even to keep some of the more aggressive non-venomous species.

Clearly by the posts the OP isn't really listening..., and to be honest, my gut feeling is that either he won't wait until he is 18 before getting something that he can show off to his friends, or if he does, will gets something that is really not what could be classed as an entry level venomous snake, but something that is highly dangerous - or god forbid, both !

For the record, I don't keep any venomous snakes. Whilst some of the most attractive snakes in the world are also the most deadly, I still wouldn't class myself as experienced enough to keep them. - Just my opinion

How exactly do know who has and has not seen a venomous snake to warrant saying that?

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Let me re-phrase that. The amount of people that come on this section giving out advice on dealing with venomous species that they have never worked with is ridiculous. It doesnt take a genious to work out who has and has not got experience with venomous....simple little things like telling people copperheads are easy going snakes is a dead give-away.....

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Okay fair enough I was just wandering what made you presume that but yes you are right, I don't have a DWA or any DWA species but have worked a little in the past with DWA mainly assisting but occasionaly 'hook handling'. First off training with mangroves and false water cobras and then progressed with Western diamond back rattlesnakes, A monocled cobra, wagners viper and a saw scaled viper, But I really did not enjoy working with DWA and would never get one myself. Also you are totaly correct in saying that someone that has not owned a snake before should not own a mangrove let alone DWA and I would not have even advised that if i reallised that the OP did not own or has never owned a snake.

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Viperlover - point me in the direction where you pulled the information on copperheads causing no deaths in the last 7 years – along with hardly any bites resulting in Crofab treatment.


Your first statement is correct, I’m not convinced about the second though – I know of several serious bites, costing the victim a serious amount of money and hospital food for several days. (I'm not sure on statistics, but will be back at a later date with that one!)

Oh… I’m not going into the whole ‘experienced handler’ discussion, but, I’d like to see you play with my copperheads – they want me to die from the minute they see me, till the minute they go to bed. They are evil!

Dave

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Have I got this right?

You ask for mentoring & say you are confident you will not be biten, but am I to presume you do not own any snakes at all from your question about where to get rodents? Something without any fangs might be the place to start.

Let me rephrase this.

I was referring to the Southern Copperhead...Bites are painful, and do a lot of damage. However, I have a friend in the States who is a Reptile expert and he says that through his experience, for SOUTHERN Copperhead bites, Most of the time Crofab isn't issued unless it's a serious matter.

Tom, I appologise for earlier as I stated in the personal message...

And to my research, and videos seen I made a conclusion they are accustomed to tolerate the presence of the keeper. I have never handled a Venomous snake, I'll be truthful on that one.

Whats the big up about Mangroves and Falsies?

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