I know they have anti and procoagulants but I've looked on some reports from bites and ptosis has been seen which lead me to believe there are some neurotoxins there too.

Any clarification on this would be grand as all my books are at uni

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i think there may be neuro toxins, but i know the venom can be councelled out with a good ol anti histomine

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Hi Matt,
Just checked Professor Julian Whites paper on Berus venom and there is no neurotoxins in their venom, ther are in Vipera ammodytes venom and a few other Vipera spp. but not Berus. The neurotoxins in ammodytes seems to cause ptosis but little else neurotoxicly. Hope this helps.
Serpentkid100, how will anti-histimines "cancell out" Adder venom?
All the best,
Brian.

WHAT????????

If you're ever lucky enough to find an adder in the wild.. don't approach it.

Mason

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Anti histomine will help reduce any allergic reaction to the venom but it wont do anything to reduce the effects of the pro and anticoagulants as the anti histomine only works on (would you guess) histomine which produces the allergic reaction.
Anti venom is really the only viable option for reducing the effects of an envenomation.

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1.3.2 Finches - Unnamed
1.0 Canary - Also unnamed
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id never believe it

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Plenty of venomous snakes contsain traces of many different toxins. GENERALLY, viperids tend to have a stronger heamotoxic venom whereas the elapids ted to have a more potent neurotoxic venom.
However there are major exceptions to this rule-the Northern death adder-an elapid has a strong heamotoxic venom for example. However like I said you wil usually find traces of both in the venom.
Ben

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I remember reading something about venom compisition changing across their range. That doesn't help much I know. Rob_in_essex is studying adders in-depth, send him a pm.

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