how many reptile shops and privet keepers use these for there vivs and what re the problems you have found with them



luke

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I have 8 which I picked up second hand which I think are superb.The only snag is the price.The smallest one 24" x 16" is $110 in the U.S. By the time it is delivered from Europe it is £138. As you mentioned D.W.A. there could be a problem in that there is a ledge where the snake can hide above the doors. Not a problem with a rainbow boa but you would'nt want to reach in the viv if it was a venomous species. Having said that a piece of wood about 1 1/2" square fills the gap. Alternatively some people fill it with expanding foam.

yes i have seen that problem aswell when we were getting a false water cobra out of one lol also even if the viv is locked the glass can still be lifted out which i find scary when they are used in shops for dwa



luke

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cb08 western hognoses
cb08 carpet python
08 defrost adult mice feeding royal pythons up to 250g
cb08 boa constrictors
mice £1 each all colours an sexes
rats £3 each
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I was going to mention that..

the glass just lifts out, not great for DWA.

Mason

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Hi , I have used visions loads for venomous and nt had a problem, but there are pitfalls to avoid such as the ledge you mention, but as long as you know this and think about it its not a problem, in relation to the glass doors you can lift them out, but i have never known any visions door fall out which i cant say the same for other types of cages, I have never had a problem and neither has anyone else i know, there not perfect but are very good

Incidentally,what's the difference between Vision and Herptek.? I have only seen pics of Herpteks but they look virtually identical.The smallest Herptek is 60 x60 x35 cm whereas Vision have one which is about the same length and breadth but only about 40cm deep which would be ideal for me.Come on somebody import the small vision cages.You would sell loads of 'em.

lol if you knew the amount you have to spend with vision to export them you would cry lol, herpteks are made in france, visions in america, visions are made of a heavier plastic

i wasnt saying its a problem in privet collections with the glass falling out but in one shop i went in i could of easily just took the glass out of all ther vivs with all the dwa in


luke

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cb08 western hognoses
cb08 carpet python
08 defrost adult mice feeding royal pythons up to 250g
cb08 boa constrictors
mice £1 each all colours an sexes
rats £3 each
daniel bogtrotter_89@hotmail.co.uk

DPS?

I had the exact same thought when me and Sami went. Cobra and rattlers that you could help yourslef too if you were foolish enough.

Not every secure for a shop environment no, while the private keeper is generally very careful most shop customers wouldn't think twice about not bumping into vivs etc.

Mason

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well all i can say is most shops dont have venomous actually on the shop floor, but if a lock is sused it makes it much more difficult to remove the glass