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Old 27-05-2008, 12:22 AM
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2 food wide is wide enough for a tegu or other monitor??? i wouldnt of thought so?

thinking about it even for a retic?

turning around may be atad hard
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Old 27-05-2008, 12:25 AM
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2 food wide is wide enough for a tegu or other monitor??? i wouldnt of thought so?

thinking about it even for a retic?

turning around may be atad hard
NO. 2ft is the height 40" is the width (3ft4") which will be fine for the female teg, and the retic, for and the nile whilst it's still small. Thinking about it though I'll probably increase the height on the bottom viv.
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Old 27-05-2008, 12:36 AM
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Old 27-05-2008, 12:38 AM
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where is your other retic going to go fangio?
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Hi Matt.

As these vivs sound as though they will be the final homes for your animals, and those animals have hopefully many years ahead of them, I do wonder if melamine will be good enough long term. I have seen twenty year old vivs housing green anacondas and retics, and these still looked as good as day one re the condition of the wood. It was marine ply. Anyhow enough of that. The only reason I really joined in here was to remind you of the fact that you will seriously need to take into account the amount of heat required in the different vivs, and the fact that in a stacking system for example, if you have the monitor underneath, being a creature that requires high heat, this could generate far too much heat to the viv above, housing the retic. You will need to think out carefully how to avoid that sort of problem, as talking from experience in the past, it's a nightmare if you don't get it right first go. Since my first big mistake, I have since chosen carefully by housing animals requiring the lower heats at the bottom of a stack, and the ones loving high temps at the top.

Good luck with everything.

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Old 27-05-2008, 06:52 AM
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Hi Matt.

As these vivs sound as though they will be the final homes for your animals, and those animals have hopefully many years ahead of them, I do wonder if melamine will be good enough long term. I have seen twenty year old vivs housing green anacondas and retics, and these still looked as good as day one re the condition of the wood. It was marine ply. Anyhow enough of that. The only reason I really joined in here was to remind you of the fact that you will seriously need to take into account the amount of heat required in the different vivs, and the fact that in a stacking system for example, if you have the monitor underneath, being a creature that requires high heat, this could generate far too much heat to the viv above, housing the retic. You will need to think out carefully how to avoid that sort of problem, as talking from experience in the past, it's a nightmare if you don't get it right first go. Since my first big mistake, I have since chosen carefully by housing animals requiring the lower heats at the bottom of a stack, and the ones loving high temps at the top.

Good luck with everything.

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Hi Mo,

Your words as ever are wise ones. I've never used a stack before, always built seperate vivs and then stacked them, with extra barriers inbetween. I have had to choose carefully what I'm housing where, doing it like that also.

Since what I'm housing all are fairly high temp animals it shouldn't be so bad (he says), I'm just gonna have to make sure I'm using reflectors for basking lights and the ventilation is good. If there's any other suggestions as to how you've overcome this problem then I'd gladly hear it.

As for the wood we'll see what happens. I built my last viv out of ply and pleased with the outcome there. I didn't use marine ply though but a WBP ply and a good varnish to seal it with. I know melamine is basically crap but just thought it'd make the outside parts look a bit nicer is all. I probably will end up using ply though tbh. Dunno if the extra expense of marine ply is worth it over WBP though (exterior grade ply, weather and boil proof).

Also I'll probably need a whole lot of luck with this LOL!

Thanks again,

Matt

p.s Jay she's going to Xiorell, pm me if you want to know the whys and wherefores. I have told him though if ever he finds himself in a position where he can no longer house her (which he hopefully won't), then she is to come straight back to me.
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heat.... hmmm i wonder if a 1/4 inch insulation board is a good investiment for that with an extra sheet of tin foil over the top it would sure get those hybrid car driving save the planet types (which i am one) all loving you for your energy conservation!!!!???

the issue with marine ply is that it has the extra few "$" to it which i personally dont think it neededs normal "melly" treated and extra varnished should do a nice job.

i think u have made a great decision with the swing open doors glass sliders would be an absolute arse when tring to get a hold of the monitor i would guess!!!! i really regret not doing that to my viv as having two hungry adult corns in one viv is hell when you are trying to split them for feeding!!!
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Old 27-05-2008, 09:32 AM
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i was also ment to tell you that probably july-august time im going to be constructing an arboreal set up readly for a tai beauty its going to be massive as i hope to eventually get breeding them... there vive is going to be: 60 inch length x 48 inch hight x24 inch width giving me 69,120 inch cubed area for them so stick that in your pipe and smoke it animal rights!!!!
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Old 27-05-2008, 11:07 AM
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With the 10' problem, and being a non-technical girly, I'd build two seperate frames of 5'x2' and bolt them together (dirty great big bolts!) That way you'd have a support down the middle as well. You could easily overlap the ply covering so the join wasn't in the same place as the join in the two frames.
I don't know if it'd work though... all my plans are a bit hit-and-miss, just do them and see if it works! I've not built a viv before, but shelving/racking/kitchen cupboards were ok!

Edit - I'll try to remember the camera tomorrow and take some photos of the little so-and-so that is causing all this trouble! He escaped yesterday...
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Old 27-05-2008, 06:28 PM
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Edit - I'll try to remember the camera tomorrow and take some photos of the little so-and-so that is causing all this trouble! He escaped yesterday...
YaY.....he's obviously wondering where I've got to.

If all goes to plan i'll be coming back for another cuddle this weekend, if not def. the next and I'll pay for him then

Funnily enough in the book I have it mentions that they "test" the viv and if they find a weak point they work at it until freedom LOL. Looks like I'm gonna have fun with this lil guy!!
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