KATIE HAVE YOU EVER kept squirrel monkeys or marmosets

Mods - this is in no way meant to be offensive but please remove it if it is deemed irrelevant to the thread

Phil in response to you.........

Firstly, I have my glasses on thank you. I simply caught the "enter" key with my finger as I was rather fristrated whilst typing.

Your'e age and my age has got to be the most irrelevant point ever made in a thread about PRIMATE WELFARE and the BASHING OF A REPUTABLE CONSULTANCY!

I do not sit waiting to pounce, you will see that I had previously posted on this thread, my user CP settings mean I receive an email notifiation of any reply. I was luckily at my computer when the email came through so replied straight away.

There are "honest" opinions that come across as unbiased and truthful to the general users of a forum such as this and then there are obviously bias opinions which come across as vindictive and, quite honesty, ridiculous such as your reply did.

You made no genuine point regarding the OP's initial query and instead accused a business of being overpriced because their sellers set the price.

So, when Tesco's next offer a price hike on milk because the cost of farming has risen again - shall we publicly boycott them because they should absorb the costs of thier workers and give us milk for free?

Please, be realistic in your statements and be "adult" as you state you are and only raise valid points relevant to the initial thread questions.

And for the record, I have never kept primates either - does that mean I am also not alowed to view and comment on primate based threads as Katie has done. (WAVES to Katie xx)

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no I haven't. The reason being I don't have the adequate space or facilities that these amazing creatures require.
So i won't buy them simply because I have the money! I want what's best for the animals i manage.

That's not to say I haven't researched into them, and once upon a time had dreams of being a primatologist.

Your point is nul and void as I'm not saying you have no primate experience, I'm saying that you slagging off tska was wrong.. You have no personal experience with them and are going solely on hearsay. Without looking into it yourself.

So getting personal like you are doing is completely irrelevent really don't you think?


At the end of the day this thread was started by the OP to help provide her with a marmoset, a breeder/supplier. I Advised her to the best place I know of.

If you have a problem with that then take it up in pm with me and stop hijacking the thread please.

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well ive kept squirrells and marmosets so i do no a bit about them there harmless no more dangerous than say a dog so if you havent kept them you dont no any of the habits or what there really like so dogs should be on dwa theres more people injured /killed bye them then there is a squirrel monkey ps katie if they are just a broker agent how do they gain experience if they dont sell or keep animals at home how can they advise i can give the best advice from a book but hands on experience with the animal is best .just a point i thought id mention

Yes but squirrel monkeys are NOT the focus of this thread or they weren't until you came along.

I honeslty beleive if you have a problem with a broker/consultant such as Rory or indeed a private seller and do not liek their prices then simply don't buy!

And before the question is raised as to my defensive nature I know Rory and Nerys both on a business and personal level. They are the first port of call for me for any animals - be them reptiles, mammals or anything inbetween because I know the stock is clean, healthy and well checked before it comes to me. They are also good friends of mine and my husbands and I know the hard work and stress they both go through business wise to try to keep people happy.

As someone who has kept primates, you Phil should be grateful that TSKA has such stringent guidelines for buyers they prevent numpties from owning many species for thier clients perhaps a business ethic more should adopt would you not agree!

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They do keep animals and they do have experience of many many animals. And I would ALWAYS trust advice that they give out. As they are on top of their game!

Not everyone wants to breed animals to make a quick buck so to speak, Rory and Nerys act as a consultant between people..

The breeders/sellers ASK them to get involved and trust them. So they obviously have no problem with them, I fail to see why you have. Unless you're worried about business being taken away

As said if you care about primates you should be thankful for people like TSKA. As Brit said they stop numpties buying an otherwise specialised animal.

And as I said, i know why the DWA is there..to protect humans..not the animals. But as I said primates should never have come off..and if they did their should have been some sort of protection put in place for them in my honest opion

Anyways back to the thread to help the OP in her search!

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brittone point taken when i started i did the rounds i would ask the seller to come down look at my set up or go to theres even taken photos of my pens ready for the animals to go in i never had any problems always got the animal and wos always well looked after i no i can go back to people and buy some more animals .but wots the point of an agent thats never kept monkeys how does he no the ins and outs of them .except what comes out of a text book . just my point thats all no offence to your buddy

But how do you know what experience Rory or Nerys have with primates as you have not asked!
How do you know that it is not the clients who use TSKA who request the guidelined enclosure size for the said animals being sold?

I apologise for what may have seemed an attack toward you but I know the dedication Rory and Nerys put into thier work and private keeping - I know because I have asked and I have seen in person.

I just feel you could be more constructive having hands on experience than marring someone's business like you have tried to do.

Back on topic now though

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point taken i do no of them its a pointless row because i no most of the breeders if theres something im after i just go straight to them and cut the broker /agent fees out it dusnt effect my hobby .i cant afford high price animals that are over priced. wont this just stop people from keeping them . if theres two pubs spaced 50 yards apart selling the same beer and one pub is 40 pence cheaper i no whitch pub id be in the one that cuts out the middle man .

I'm not going to join in on this but Rory DID say he didn't keep the animals he acts as a go between (the post was removed). I personally would prefer to buy directly from the breeder so you can get advice from someone that's experienced with the animal. Book (or google) knowledge is great, but nothing is better than experience ... but that's just my opinion.

And yes ... I've kept tamarins, squirrel monkeies, lemurs and marmies.

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