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Mason

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Mmm can't do you kinkajou i am afraid..

but do have a nice recipe for Raccoon with sweet potato stuffing..

1 dressed raccoon, 4 to 5 pounds 4 teaspoons salt
3 cups sweet potatoes, mashed
3/4 cup seedless raisins
2-1/2 cups soft bread crumbs
1-3/4 cups apples. peeled & diced
1/4 cup corn syrup
1/4 cup butter or margarine, melted
1/4 teaspoon pepper

Remove the raccoon's waxy nodules, (commonly referred to as "kernels") from under each front leg and on either side of the spine in the small of the back. Wash meat thoroughly and dry. Remove part of the fat, leaving just enough to cover the carcass with a thin layer of fat. Sprinkle 1 teaspoon salt inside body. Fill with mixture of 2 teaspoons salt and remaining ingredients except pepper. Skewer the vent by inserting several toothpicks through the skin from side to side. Lace with string, tying the ends securely. Fasten both the forelegs and the hind legs with toothpicks and string. If there are any lean parts on the outside of the body, fasten a small piece of the surplus fat to this part with a toothpick. Sprinkle with remaining salt and the pepper. Put on side on greased rack in shallow baking pan and roast in preheated slow oven (325 degrees F.) for 45 minutes per pound.Turn when half done. Makes 6 to 8 servings.


or opossom, served again with sweet potatos..

1 opossum, cleaned & dressed
3 green peppers, chopped
salt to taste
4 large sweet potatoes, peeled & sliced
3 red peppers, chopped

Combine salt, peppers and 4 cups of water in saucepan; simmer until liquid is reduced by half. Combine opossum with pan liquid and sweet potatoes in baking pan. Bake at 350 degrees F. for 1 hour or until opussum is tender, basting occasionally.


must dig out the skunk recipies...

as no doubt some plank will accuse me of eating them too some day.. might as well have a decent recipe to hand for then!

N

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the laugh of it is Rory, as well you know, that we get more shit flung at us from the "secret exotics keeping brigade" than we do from the antis..

in fact, there are antis who i would rather have a cup of tea with, then some keepers..

not to mention the antis that ARE keepers i guess!

N

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LMAO I love it

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i just thought i would throw my pennies worth in is that if a private keeper does enough research in any exotic then why cant they keep them who says a zoo or a game park can keep that animal any better than a well researched responsible private keeper.It is always the primate keeper that is always at the top of the list and i know that people keep them in horrid conditions as with many other exotics but really in this day and age what can we do about it,yes the keeper can be responsible to whom they sell there primates to people who have means,knowledge and decent housing for there animals,but unfortunately this does not happen,some people are just in it to make money and totally disreguard that animals welfare.I myself do keep primates and i feel lucky in that i feel i can keep them in a sound environment with all the needs that they require,but really all exotic keepers should beable to do this from the smallest to the largest.I do not class them as a pet but part of my collection i just wish that people would look into at what a primates needs are and if u are unsure if you cannot meet them then dont buy.

Hi Irwin,

Thank God, an actual primate keeper at long last corresponding in the thread.

You are right, many keepers out there are just in it for the money, motivated by the green.

I agree, that if more potential primate keepers researched what they were planning to undertake it would make the primates life a hell of a lot more beneficial.

But what can we do about it?

Well, primate keepers do need to make their voices heard above the din of all the other sectors and demand that the codes of practice for primates are released and not tucked away until the new century. What can keepers of primates do about it?

They can start really keeping records of who they sell to. They must be motivated not by the financial gain, but more by the knowledge or lack of it that wanabee keepers display to them. They must keep in touch with those to whom they do sell to and make sure that everything is adhered to. But also to see if there are any problems.

Primate sellers must take full accountability for their actions throughout a sale, because if something does go wrong, and it takes a turn for the worst, then the buyer should be able to contact the seller immediately and try to secure a result.

Way too many sellers/keepers of primates just don't give a damn, they will sell to people who will keep below the standards that they may themselves keep in.

But the worst crime is that without cop's in action for the genuinely responsible keeper of primates, there are those keepers out there that do keep them in horrid conditions with the wrong ethics and morals, and that when they sell to a potential keeper, that keeper [novice] will think that those conditions the seller keeps them in is totally acceptable and continue to practice the same method, and as a direct result of that, the conditions for primates will continue to undermine all the dedication that responsible keepers maintain to.

As a seller l do try and ensure that everything is correct and above board by the screening, constant questions, back tracking questions, visits, constant communications and so on.

But l feel that people like me are few and far between in the sales of primates, and no this is not attacking all primate keepers, but the minority which will undoubtedly create the fall of this species to be held in private hands.

Primate keepers need to do more. They need to take accountability for what they are doing.

It is not acceptable to sell a single primate to a buyer when the seller knows damn well that it will be kept in a solitary existance.

It is not acceptable to sell a primate into the hands of someone that does not have the right enclosures.

It is not acceptable for a primate seller to sell to someone who can not even spell the species of primate they are after, for that alone as comical as it is, should surely display that the research element has been totally ignored.

It is not acceptable to sell a primate that has not even been properly weaned from its mother. Simply because its cutsie or makes for a nice hand held photograph for a forum.

There are many things primate keepers can do now, sadly many of them do not.

For if the primate keeper/seller does not start to take a responsible attitude in the selling of primates, they will lose their ability to keep them in their collections.

If more primate keepers do not start taking action, then l feel the way things are going, then l for one will start backing the opposition in their campaigns for the prohibition of keeping primates by the private individual. And why?

Because many keepers not just primate are expecting so very few to exact results for them and they do not wish to take action against those who oppose them.

Because the way the opposition is with its dedication towards stopping the private keeping, l have to say l admire them in their efforts, but sadly l know longer disagree with the reasons in which they are trying to restrict the keeping.

What can be done Irwin?

Start shouting out, that you are proud to be a primate keeper and start demanding that actions from primate keepers are needed now and not just simply talking about it quietly.

But this is not aimed at you, for you have spoken, and for that l am thankful.

R

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i was watching a show from the us where it was saying monkeys make great stand in kids that never grow up for people with empty nest syndrome and the people on there has monkey buggys nappys highchairs cots etc. i mean come on they cant be happy they belong in the trees

I think a lot of people humanise primates far too much and when you throw in the "ahhhh how cute" factor, you are always set to have problems.

I think the programmes mainly focus on the US and such like for the major baby monkey replacing a lost child kind of keepers.

I watched one once where the woman had a baby primate and it had it's own bedroom witha single bed, lamp etc - everything you would give a child.

When asked how it compared to her own son whom she lost at a young age her reply was like having a downs syndrome child because of the things she had to do extra for it!!!!

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My 2 pennys worth

I would love to own a primate more to the point i would love the time space and money to own one
I would also like a tiger and a great white shark

and a few meerkats lol

I love primates i find them facinating i also love watching programmes on them yes they have the "awwe how cute" factor
BUT I Know AND have the sense that I personally do not have the time knowledge and room to keep one or two and to keep them safe and happy and grow up the way they should !!
And i think this is the problem people DONT think it is just a status they see it want it and get it simple as that most of the time with very little research and i personally believe primates as well as many other exotics are too easily obtainable to just joe bloggs

Im not sure how but i think there should be some way of stopping exotics being just sold to whomever has the cash at the time
I have heard great things about Rory and Nerys and how strongly they vet a interested buyer of one of their animals this should happen more
then maybe animals wouldnt suffer as much as they are

end rant .........lol

ps , anyone who has a great white for sale please pm me

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