I thought I had a bargain as the tank was £580 but now its up and running (no livestock yet) and its just tipped £1000!
Liverock alone was £245

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Yeah, liverock is very expensive. I got fully cured for £8 a kilo, but that is quite cheap compared to some other places. I think you are doing the right thing by not adding fish until it has cycled. I wouldn't use a live animal to do something like that even if it is supposed to be "hardy". The cycle will happen naturally, and if you are impatient...you can use a cooked prawn! Love the rock work too btw

Anna

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Natural cycle dosnt happen for ages unless you add some sort of cycle chemical ... which is very un natural.... (in my opinion)

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I find cycling with fish unnatural

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Whatever

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A natural cycle will start as and when it is supposed to happen, which is usually a few days- a week after adding the live rock. It will have some die off no matter how good the rock is, which is adequate to start a cycle. No chemicals/fish required.

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Agreed, LR for the cycling FTW (not live fish...)

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I'm in no hurry and dont want to stress any fish out to save a few days, I can see algae growth happening, the difference a few hours can make is unreal!

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Each to their own ......

As I said at least 15 successful aquariums .... But thats just my method , dosnt work for everybody ....

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I'm not saying it doesn't work, I know it does. I was saying that I would prefer the LR method, as its less stressful on the fish.

Using fish for cycling will CERTAINLY stress the fish, so if theres a better method, why do it?

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