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Old 17-05-2008, 05:31 PM
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what are peoples views on hybrid fish?many fish keeper seem to think their is no place for them.i disagree with this you cant put the blame on the fish.i have a few hybrid fish and i would not get rid of them.
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Old 17-05-2008, 05:50 PM
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Things like guppy + endler which happens naturally in your tank, i have no problem with.

it's when they're artificially made and put on mass production when i dont like it.

Like blood parrots. Horrible things. The fact that they are tattooed, have their tails cut off to look like hearts, are dyed etc just proves that people have a low respect for hybrid animals.
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Same with snakes I think. As long as it is clear that they are hybrids (which is often is with fish anyways), and there are no health problems, I see no problem with it.

Its when hybrid fish get into the gene pool of one of its parents species, or into the wild, that it becomes bad news. Which, is bound to happen with badly controlled breeding.
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Old 17-05-2008, 05:58 PM
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ashmashmash,esfa i know you would be right behind me with your comments.lol

i have 4x blood parrots and they do take a bit of stick from people,they are ugly bless em.but the longer you keep them the more you love them.you are right esfa there are many tattoo fish out there that also hold a high price tag god knows why.
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Old 17-05-2008, 06:19 PM
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why do people need to play god?

Natually occuring hybrids are fine. Dont bother me in the slightest. However forced hybrids such as the blood parrot and the flowerhorn are wrong and serve no reason at all. So many much better true species around for people to buy hybrids
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why do people need to play god?

Natually occuring hybrids are fine. Dont bother me in the slightest. However forced hybrids such as the blood parrot and the flowerhorn are wrong and serve no reason at all. So many much better true species around for people to buy hybrids
Dam! This could have turned into a great argument, but i agree with you 100%
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why do people need to play god?

Natually occuring hybrids are fine. Dont bother me in the slightest. However forced hybrids such as the blood parrot and the flowerhorn are wrong and serve no reason at all. So many much better true species around for people to buy hybrids
Haha, well then, I'll argue

But there's no reason not for them, as long as they are healthy, is there? Some people like them, they have a market, they aren't unhealthy (well, most), so its not really that bad is it?

Dont get me wrong, I hate the lot of them, would never keep them... but still.
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Old 17-05-2008, 06:27 PM
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ah turn to the ugly side ash.lol
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Haha, well then, I'll argue

But there's no reason not for them, as long as they are healthy, is there? Some people like them, they have a market, they aren't unhealthy (well, most), so its not really that bad is it?

Dont get me wrong, I hate the lot of them, would never keep them... but still.
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My view is that the ones which are not affected and susceptible to disease are fine, but then there are the ones like bloodparrots and the Flowerhorn, which, IMO, are horrible, and are continuously sold to people who have no idea that these poor things are hybrids, and are susceptible to swimbladder disease, this is where i dont agree with hybrids
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Old 17-05-2008, 07:35 PM
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breeding any animal to change its features for no real purpose other than vanity is wrong in my opinion. Im not talking different morphs etc im talking different anatomy

eg rotties were bred to be big strong and loyal. They have a purpose to be that way. blood parrots are bred just because some one wanted to produce something that looked how he wanted (and yes it was a man, only us guys could be that stupid) not because he needed it to look that way. Blood parrots are seriously buggered, many cannot eat properly because of their distorted face.
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