dude its not bull. I really have no reason to lie about my fish. I am really tempted now to go to my old place and dig up the pleco body just to take a picture of the bones. as for the other fish kinda hard when u flush them. but it wont really matter u all would just say it was from a bigger tank. the tigerbarbs may be 2 and 1/2 to 3 inches all i know is they were big. Its been a couple years. as for the guppies they been with me since i started the tank and that was for about 5 years. meh

when buying livebearers it's better to have a ratio of 1M 2F (preferably 3F)

also, two males are more likely to fight as there are no others to distract them i.e. 3 or 4 males would be a safer number together

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he's not saying the plec wasn't 10" - he's saying a 10" inch fish wouldn't fit comfortably in a 10gal tank (though by rights the chances of a plec reaching that size in such a small tank is very slim)

2/3" tiger barbs yes but you did say in the first post that they were 5" which would indeed be an impressive sight

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Now that i pull the ruler out 5 inches was a bit to big. I was just going off of memory cause i remember them being really big and plump. as for the pleco he seemed to enjoy himself in the tank. but I dont know what a happy fish is vs a sad fish lol but he was a big boy when he was on the glass upside down sucking on the glass from tip of nose touching the gravel his tail was always sticking out of the water and the water was pretty much to the top. He was always active cause i could always hear him/her sucking on the rocks like there was no tomorrow.
After the fish died it was kinda creepy cause every now and then and even while i was asleep I would wake up to the sound of gravel being shuffled around. kinda creepy yah lol

Hey guys, forgot about this thread. The tank was cycled yes, I'm not completely new. For about 2 weeks. I have kept Sailfin Plecs before, just didn't know the name, so I'm aware of the size.
The rest of the guppys are fine and doing well so I geuss it was the stress. Everythings doing fine now, thanks for the advice.

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ive been keeping fish for nearly 14 years and in my opinion, neons are hard to keep in my area as the water obviously isnt right for them and guppies were meant to be an easy fish to keep but since so many are interbred there life span are very short now compared to before......
But please if you havent already, invest in a water test kit as there worth weight in gold in the long run...............
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I have Guppies and neon tetra living together in harmony, I've never had a problem with fighting although i have had a neon pop is clogs on me but put that down to it being very small and the change from pet shop to tank having that affect,

Guppies i have 1 male and 3 females,
my issue is he keeps hanging around by the top of the tank, i read some where it could be due to stress so i left him a day to see if he would come down and he did then soon as some thing makes him jump he's right back up there otherwize hes perfectly healthy,

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Although at first it sounds like it could be lies if you think about it its not so impossible. I once had a female guppy live for around 4 years, she was my frist guppy (drab female, grey body and dark blue/black short tail).

My neighbour had a 9-10" pleco in a 70 litre tank but it died, 10 inches isnt as big as it sounds when it comes to plecos.

and I have never seen/herd about a 5" tiger barb so cant really argue with that.

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People all say guppies are very easy to keep, but the Wild Caught ones are imposible!
The neon are very sensative fish and need shoals of 8+ as well as tall plants to hide among. Try more hardy tetras next time.
Also, all of the fish in there aren't hardy and so will probably get very ill or die from the new tank. Next time introduce them at a steady pace after introducing very hardy fish.
As for the bite marks, the Plec may have taken a chunk out AFTER it had died. Their brain shapes indicate an 'eat then sense' as humans have a 'sense then eat'. If you put a large slice of cucumber buried in the substrate, the Plec will eat that and not worry about any casualties.

Hope this helps

Harry

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Then your tank probably wasn't cycled properly as fishless cycling with ammonia usually takes 3-4 weeks. Let me guess - you left the water ""stand" for two weeks which meant that, at the end of two weeks, you just had a tank of water i.e. no filter bacteria. This may explain some of the problems your fish have been having.

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