good dart species?

[cpiggott22]

I'm getting a 45cm exo cube in a couple of days as it was a complete bargain and I couldn't resist. It seems too small for any of the main tree frog species and there isn't enough floor space for anything more aquatic or any non-climbers. I'm thinking of some darts but I've obviously heard masses of people saying they should be avoided as a first frog. I need pointing in the right direction for research really as I'm new to frogs (but definitely not new to exotics!)- I won't be getting any for several months to make sure the viv is fully kitted out and I've done all my research. I intend on getting a fully regulated heating and misting system and researching and building my own false bottomed and filtered/heated water flow as well as planting and establishing it before even looking for the frogs. I just need some pointers as to where to start please- any good care sheets or species would be brilliant Cheers guys

[Morgan Freeman]

www.dendroboard.com

This website is great. They have care sheets for each species aswell as difficulty ratings. There's also a great section on the forum with members vivs, check them out some of them are stunning.

[cpiggott22]

cheers! I've had a quick glance and it looks a bit confusing but I'll look through it properly after my ratties have had their run

[chondro13]

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/amphi...ml#post3992527

heres how i keep mine

[Morgan Freeman]

Care Sheets - Dendroboard

Member's Frogs & Vivariums - Dendroboard

Booyah!

[MARK.D]

Keeping Dartfrogs - a knol by AJ Cann

[cpiggott22]

thanks guys . Before I spend hours looking, do most darts have similar requirements...so could I set up a generic dart viv and tweak it for specific needs nearer to choosing my species? They seem to mostly need temps in the low to mid 70s and humidity of at least 80%

[Ben W]

I used to keep various dart frogs and really went to town on waterfalls and misting systems, made my own fruit fly cultures etc, and it was so much hastle, that keeping the frogs was such a pain that i packed it in.

I went back to them late last year, with one big difference, i kept the set up far more simple.
Its more enjoyable, the frogs are great, kokoe poison frogs, kept at 23c 85% humidity, sprayed with rainwater twice a day, and not a fruit fly in sight.
Tank is a exo terra 18 by 24, with the twin compact hood, i have 2 terra fans that come on for 15 mins an hour, one fan blows in cold air and the other blows in air from under the light hood, so there is air circulation within the tank, which i feel is important.
Hope all this makes sense, as long as the envoironment fits the species you fancy, then keep it simple, much less to go wrong.

Ben

[grazzzz]

Originally Posted by Ben W

I went back to them late last year, with one big difference, i kept the set up far more simple.
and not a fruit fly in sight.


Ben

What do you feed them on Ben?

[cpiggott22]

Originally Posted by Ben W

I used to keep various dart frogs and really went to town on waterfalls and misting systems, made my own fruit fly cultures etc, and it was so much hastle, that keeping the frogs was such a pain that i packed it in.

I went back to them late last year, with one big difference, i kept the set up far more simple.
Its more enjoyable, the frogs are great, kokoe poison frogs, kept at 23c 85% humidity, sprayed with rainwater twice a day, and not a fruit fly in sight.
Tank is a exo terra 18 by 24, with the twin compact hood, i have 2 terra fans that come on for 15 mins an hour, one fan blows in cold air and the other blows in air from under the light hood, so there is air circulation within the tank, which i feel is important.
Hope all this makes sense, as long as the envoironment fits the species you fancy, then keep it simple, much less to go wrong.

Ben

I agree 100% that simpler is almost always better in terms of hassle but I'm a sucker for a natural viv! No doubt I'll end up doing what you did but I guess I need to make the mistake first . I don't really bother culturing my own food, it's way too much hassle (couldn't even be bothered with those whiteworms!) so I tend to bulk buy live food from a company I've been using for about a year now