Mixing Fire Salamanders & Fire Bellied Toads?

[Josh-sama]

Just curious as the norm is to NOT mix species, yet I see people mixing these two?

Its alright? No dominance issues etc?

[Joe1507]

Ive often heard of the salamander eating the fbt, which will probablyk ill it.
just dont do it, i only agree with mixing if their from same reigon (e.g smooth newts with palmates)

[Josh-sama]

Aye, but I've seen people do it iwthout problems, and it's a lot of people. So like, just curious.

[bug man]

yes ame i know a few people who mix them with out a probelm

[Ben W]

Dont get me started on this one

[EdRafferty]

Its a risk, you need to think about if you want to take that risk.
They could end up getting on with no problems at all or they could end up eating each other you have to decide if its worth taking that risk or not.
Just make sure they are in a huge tank with lots of hiding places.

Ed

[badboiboom]

wait...


fire bellied toads need a paludarium setup like 1/3 land to 2/3 water whereas a fire salamander is a wholly terrestrial/fossorial species...


these species would NEVER come across each other in the wild and both secrete quite nasty toxins..

it just shouldn't be done

[spend_day]

Originally Posted by Josh-sama

Just curious as the norm is to NOT mix species, yet I see people mixing these two?

Its alright? No dominance issues etc?

Originally Posted by Josh-sama

Aye, but I've seen people do it iwthout problems, and it's a lot of people. So like, just curious.

i would honestly like to know where you saw this, and what you mean by "without problems"

fbt's are a semi aquatic species where fire salamanders easily drown if they cant get out of the water also fire salamanders can be very shy while fbt's are quite active and aggressive.

I wouldn't be surprised if lifespan is shortened by exposure to each others toxins as there is alot of anecdotal evidence to suggest this happens with fire belly toads and fire bally newts (which used to be commonly mixed as pet shops said "its fine there both fire bellys" but oftne it leads to aggressive and stressed animals as well as the differences in "best" environment.

finally fbt's do best at a higher temp than fire sals

It's just not something i would do and I'm fairly sure most keepers wouldn’t do even just for the fact they require different set-ups. I would guess there are likely to be underlying stress and heath issues.

[EdRafferty]

Look on youtube its full of people mixing species, i saw one putting a fire salalamander is a fully aquatic tank witha ll sorts of fish and newts.
Half those people on youtube dont even know how to take care of an amphibian. their jsut trying to show off on youtube and have a good looking tank.

Ed

[spend_day]

Originally Posted by EdRafferty

Look on youtube its full of people mixing species, i saw one putting a fire salalamander is a fully aquatic tank witha ll sorts of fish and newts.
Half those people on youtube dont even know how to take care of an amphibian. their jsut trying to show off on youtube and have a good looking tank.

Ed

I know what you mean.