Help needed to create a sticky on best beginner frog species

[ipreferaflan]

I'm in the process of making a sticky based on everyone's experience on here, as it's a question that gets raised quite often.
This is the list I've got so far:

Aquatic
African Clawed Frog (Xenopus)

Semi-aquatic
Fire-Bellied Toad (Bombina orientalis, perhaps other species in the same genus too)

Arboreal (Tree Frogs)
White's Tree Frog (Litoria caerulea)
American Green Tree Frog (Hyla cinerea)
American Grey/Gray Tree Frog (Hyla versicolor)
Peacock Tree Frog/Big Eyed Tree Frog (Leptopelis Vermiculatus)
Vietnamese Blue Tree Frog (rhacophorus dennysi)
European Green Tree Frog (hyla aborea)

Terrestrial (Ground Frogs)
Horned/Pacman Frog (Ceratophrys)
Cane Toad (Bufo marinus)
European Green Toad (Bufo viridis or Pseudepidalea viridis)


If anyone thinks anything should be added/removed then please let me know.
Once the list seems to be complete, I'll start a separate thread that will hopefully be made a stickyyyy!

[ipreferaflan]

Are any of these species recommended for beginners?

Asian Horned Frog
Red-Legged Running Frog
Tomato Frog
Spadefoot Toad
Harlequin Toad
Amazon Milk Frog
Budgett's Frog

Also, I'm unsure if there should be a dart frog section. Are any darts recommended for beginners?

Cheers.

[Morgan Freeman]

Harlequin, Milk and Budgetts I wouldn't have.

Darts, no.

[llamafish]

What Bullshit!!

for Dartfrogs

for instance

Tri-colours
Leucs
Hyloxalus azureiventris
Phyllobates vittatus

Dont Cut corners! and Research, which you should do for ANY PET!!

[Morgan Freeman]

You would advise them to someone who had never kept frogs before? Even though the link you have given recommends installing a misting system, breeding fruit flies and providing high humidity with a dry winter period?

[naz_pixie]

i think that if this is aimed at people who are looking for there first frog, then a long list of names will mean nothing.. yes i agree that they should then do there own research but if this is supposed to be a first reverence sort of thing then i think it could be much more usefull..

personaly i think every recommended species should have:

a picture
basic behavioural and habitat info
a link to a recommended care sheet (be it one on here or on a different site)
any specialist experience, equipment or knowledge needed


afterall as a suitable "beginer" species it also needs to be a species that is easierly researchable and has plently available infomation to go with the species..

for example when researching vietnamese blue's there is very little infomation around that is actualy aimed at that specific species.. which as a beginer would make it very difficult to care for this frog..

so for those reason i think if your going to recommend frogs as good beginner frogs you also need to point in the right research directions (not suggesting we do all the research for them).. as no frog is a good beginer frog if they dont know how to look after it!

[llamafish]

yes, it the same, apart from grow your own food!!

My first frog was a Azzies!!

FBT and RETF

READ & LEARN

Anyway.... [misting systems, uses some common sense mate]

THINK NAz has nailed my point

[Morgan Freeman]

Originally Posted by llamafish

yes, it the same, apart from grow your own food!!

My first frog was a Azzies!!

FBT and RETF

READ & LEARN

Anyway....

I'm convinced.

[Morgan Freeman]

Originally Posted by naz_pixie

i think that if this is aimed at people who are looking for there first frog, then a long list of names will mean nothing.. yes i agree that they should then do there own research but if this is supposed to be a first reverence sort of thing then i think it could be much more usefull..

personaly i think every recommended species should have:

a picture
basic behavioural and habitat info
a link to a recommended care sheet (be it one on here or on a different site)
any specialist experience, equipment or knowledge needed


afterall as a suitable "beginer" species it also needs to be a species that is easierly researchable and has plently available infomation to go with the species..

for example when researching vietnamese blue's there is very little infomation around that is actualy aimed at that specific species.. which as a beginer would make it very difficult to care for this frog..

so for those reason i think if your going to recommend frogs as good beginner frogs you also need to point in the right research directions (not suggesting we do all the research for them).. as no frog is a good beginer frog if they dont know how to look after it!

I'm sure all the info can be added, but a quick reference is definitely needed on here so people can go and research on their own. There's constantly threads asking for good starter species and it's easier just to refer them to a sticky and say go and research some of those.

[naz_pixie]

Originally Posted by llamafish

yes, it the same, apart from grow your own food!!

My first frog was a Azzies!!

FBT and RETF

READ & LEARN

Anyway.... [misting systems, uses some common sense mate]

THINK NAz has nailed my point

sort of.. i belive a beginer could sucsessfully look after most species if they do the utmost of research and are prepared to pour as much time and effort as possible into there new pet...

but i also agree with morgan freeman, in as much as however much the above is true it doesnt actualy make the species an "ideal" first frog..

i think at the end of teh day it comes down to being less about the frog a more about the level of commitment the owner puts in..