Leo breeding

[FeV]

hey all. ok so i thought it was time to put 2 of my leos together to start breeding. ive done all the research and set up incubator etc.

so i put them both in a big neutral rub. the male went over to the female and bit her tale not a little nip but bit into her tale so she turned round and bit him back and had a little squabble.
at which point i separated and thought id ask the holy bible of rfuk folk.
Is this normal behavior? should i leave them to it? should i try again at a different time?
and yes 1 is a male and the other a female.
thanks adam

[funky1]

No it`s definitely not mating behaviour mate - that just sounds like 2 leos who`ve never met before having a scrap! Definitely seperate them for a while and then try again in a day or 2, maybe leave it a week. It`s not that they`re not going to mate, but their natural waryness of other leos has over-ridden their mating instincts. Also once he`s had a real bite of her, then she just goes into defence mode and I doubt she`d let him have his way with her until she`s had a chance to calm down. But now the ice has been broken - and they`ve managed to have a taste, smell and assertain each other`s sex, then it should go a lot smoother next time.
I`ve had the same prob with a few of mine this year - but I`ve noticed that it`s always happened when an inexperienced male has been used, the ones who haven`t really learnt what they`ve got or how to use it haha!!!

[FeV]

ok thanks for that mate.
hmm well mines the other way round. ive got a 1st time female and when i got my male i was told he was kept in with a group of females. thanks again, ill try them again soon

[kirsten]

usually when you introduce the male, he should keep his distance, then vibrate his tail, this is him saying i'm a boy what are you. the female will do nothing so the male knows the other leo is a female. he should then go over to investigate by sniffing biting twiching and carressing, then if the female makes no move to tell him to bog off, he'll go about his business*ahem* and there you go, hopefully fertile eggies on the way!!

also consider intorducing the male into the females territory then it will smell of her and he'll know it's a female right way, and she'll feel secure as it's her territory.

[FeV]

he did all the tail shaking etc whilst she did nothing then he gave her a sniff then chomp

[RepBex]

Maybe he was just hungry

[kirsten]

it is normal for them to do some biting as they bite the back of the neck while they mount.

[FeV]

just put my other male in with another female and they got straight to it. so i tried the 1st male again with another female and she 2 bit him back when he started nibbling

[sam12345]

The female was telling the male she didnt want it.
Simple as that really, it was more than likely that she wasnt ovulating so didnt have the instictive breeding reactions.

[FeV]

so how can you tell when the girls are ovulating?