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Old 23-09-2009, 07:08 PM
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If I were to breed a Mojave Royal to a Bumblebee Royal would the possible outcomes be:

Normal
Mojave
Spider
Pastave
Spimo
and I guess they would all be het pastel.
All abuse is welcome if I'm completely wrong, this gene thing aint easy
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Old 23-09-2009, 10:42 PM
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Sorry, only part right.

Pastel and mojave are codominant mutant genes. Spider is either a dominant or codominant mutant gene; the jury is still out because as far as I know, nobody has proven a homozygous spider royal. In other words, there is no such thing as a het pastel (or het spider or het mojave) that looks normal.

A bumblebee royal has a pastel mutant gene paired with a normal gene and a spider mutant gene paired with a normal gene. A mojave royal has a mojave mutant gene paired with a normal gene. All unspecified genes in both snakes are presumed to be normal genes.

Bumblebee X mojave produces
1/8 normal
1/8 mojave
1/8 spider
1/8 pastel
1/8 mojave spider (spimo???)
1/8 mojave pastel (pastave)
1/8 spider pastel (bumblebee)
1/8 mojave spider pastel (don't know what the trade name is)

By the way, the probabilities are per egg, not per eight-egg clutch.
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Old 24-09-2009, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by paulh View Post
Bumblebee X mojave produces
1/8 normal
1/8 mojave
1/8 spider
1/8 pastel
1/8 mojave spider (spimo???)
1/8 mojave pastel (pastave)
1/8 spider pastel (bumblebee)
1/8 mojave spider pastel (don't know what the trade name is)

By the way, the probabilities are per egg, not per eight-egg clutch.
As above.
Names are mojave spider is a spimo, and a mojave spider pastel is just called a mojave bumblebee. Technically there is such a thing as a het pastel but a pastel being a co dom trait means the het would look pastel and the hom version is a super pastel. But it is not a recessive het pastel that is carried and not shown like het albino is.

Also it a great combo you get a real nice variety, the pastave is a morph I personally like a lot.
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Old 24-09-2009, 07:15 PM
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Thanks very much, I did think that pastel was like the albino gene. But quite impressed with myself, wasn't too far off.
Thanks again
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