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right i have an adult pair of milks who are up to weight(will double check tomoz) i want to breed them, im sure now is the time of year to think about cooling.

so please can i have the idiots guide to breeding milks?


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Old 22-10-2009, 12:09 AM
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right i have an adult pair of milks who are up to weight(will double check tomoz) i want to breed them, im sure now is the time of year to think about cooling.

so please can i have the idiots guide to breeding milks?


thankyou
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The method I have used over the last few years is.

Stop feeding at end of October ,maintain normal temps until end of november then gradually reduce temps over next few weeks , try to get down to 50 to 55degrees F.

Disturb as little as possible but make sure they have a constant supply of fresh water.

Keep temps low until end January then over a period of a few weeks gradually return temps to normal.

When feeding for the first time offer a smaller than usual food item.

When the female has had her first shed put the male with her for a few days or until you see them lock.

I usually repeat this a few times.

Hope this helps.

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Old 22-10-2009, 01:18 AM
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Hi

The method I have used over the last few years is.

Stop feeding at end of October ,maintain normal temps until end of november then gradually reduce temps over next few weeks , try to get down to 50 to 55degrees F.

Disturb as little as possible but make sure they have a constant supply of fresh water.

Keep temps low until end January then over a period of a few weeks gradually return temps to normal.

When feeding for the first time offer a smaller than usual food item.

When the female has had her first shed put the male with her for a few days or until you see them lock.

I usually repeat this a few times.

Hope this helps.

regards

John
This is also the method I would use, except i would supervise all atemted matings as the female may be hungry and you do not want the male to be the meal which happened to me quite a few years back with a king through my own stupidity.
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This is also the method I would use, except i would supervise all atemted matings as the female may be hungry and you do not want the male to be the meal which happened to me quite a few years back with a king through my own stupidity.
Never had any problem with milks used to keep the in together all the time only ever had one problem and it was a male pueblan and he ate 2 eggs

Other than that I agree with the above all my brumation temps are maintained between 10-13°C above 16°C and they are not brumating and will lose too much condition I would normally place the male in with the female after her first slough and feed as much as she wants and remove the male when sure she is gravid
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thankyou very much ! the process shall begin
does the 300gr 3yr rule apply with milks like it does with corns?
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The third spring rule for first breeding applies. Some subspecies of milk snakes are not the same size as the corn snake is, so the weight/length for yours may not apply.
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has anyone successfully bred hondos without brumation?
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has anyone successfully bred hondos without brumation?
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