BUYER BEWARE – Noah’s Ark Couriers/Jonnyboy/Craig Ford

[missk]

If I knew someone was involved with scamming people, I would not use them as couriers ON PRINCIPLE!

Especially if they did not provide the adequate conditions for transit, is being COLD.

I can't believe anyone is trying to say anything negative about the OP!

Meko - would you have your animals couriered by a 'company' known to have delivered animals which were stone cold? Who couldn't collect/deliver on time? Who had no interest in the welfare of your animals? Who had the history of several MAJOR disputes with people over animals sold (under advertised weight, emaciated to the point of dying within 12 hours of you getting it)? Seriously?

[messengermatt]

As it appears a Moderator has caught wind of this it's probably best that they deal with it now. we dont want people being banned now do we.

While i dont condone what they have done i hope the moderators launch a full investigation into the usernames being used to perfom the accused actions.

[excession]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

As it appears a Moderator has caught wind of this it's probably best that they deal with it now. we dont want people being banned now do we.

While i dont condone what they have done i hope the moderators launch a full investigation into the usernames being used to perfom the accused actions.

Having read the OP and the details he gave this really is pretty sickning.

I would hope that the RFUK do take steps to prevent this person using their forum as a medium to facilitate their scamming.

[t-bo]

Just a quick post as I am at work... just to confirm ive been dealing SSthisto along the way with this and helping with the investigation. We are aware and have been dealing with the situation.

At this present time the jonnyboy account is closed, the Craig account has been banned & Noah's Ark do not have access to the classified sections (only the chat forum).

[excession]

Originally Posted by t-bo

Just a quick post as I am at work... just to confirm ive been dealing SSthisto along the way with this and helping with the investigation. We are aware and have been dealing with the situation.

At this present time the jonnyboy account is closed, the Craig account has been banned & Noah's Ark do not have access to the classified sections (only the chat forum).

Out of interest why allow even partial access?

Is not a full ban bassed on their known IP's the best bet?

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by t-bo

Just a quick post as I am at work... just to confirm ive been dealing SSthisto along the way with this and helping with the investigation. We are aware and have been dealing with the situation.

At this present time the jonnyboy account is closed, the Craig account has been banned & Noah's Ark do not have access to the classified sections (only the chat forum).

It's good to see that something has now been done, we can all rest knowing it is being sorted out.

[messengermatt]

Originally Posted by excession

Out of interest why allow even partial access?

Is not a full ban bassed on their known IP's the best bet?

That depends if thay have a Dynamic IP or not, they could easily be back within 24 hours if that was the case.

[t-bo]

Originally Posted by excession

Out of interest why allow even partial access?

Is not a full ban bassed on their known IP's the best bet?

So that they can respond to SSthisto.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by missk

If I knew someone was involved with scamming people, I would not use them as couriers ON PRINCIPLE!

Especially if they did not provide the adequate conditions for transit, is being COLD.

I can't believe anyone is trying to say anything negative about the OP!

Meko - would you have your animals couriered by a 'company' known to have delivered animals which were stone cold? Who couldn't collect/deliver on time? Who had no interest in the welfare of your animals? Who had the history of several MAJOR disputes with people over animals sold (under advertised weight, emaciated to the point of dying within 12 hours of you getting it)? Seriously?

Miss K... he wouldnt ( well i hope he wouldnt anyways who can tell with meko?)....he is simply palying devils advocate and being obtuse.. he enjoys it... as he has said many times ... annoying as it may be... he just likes the debate.. hence why im bothering to debate back with him hes good for that... .... I dont actually think he advocates this person.. I think possibly hes bored and wanted to have a gas about something...

As for the issues here at least the mods and t-bo are fully aware of whats going on , hopefully less people will be conned now...

[Meko]

Originally Posted by sparkle

Miss K... he wouldnt ( well i hope he wouldnt anyways who can tell with meko?)....he is simply palying devils advocate and being obtuse.. he enjoys it... as he has said many times ... annoying as it may be... he just likes the debate..

umm, nope..
i'm just stating the fact that the issue raised was with Jonnyboy miss-selling snakes. The fact that he also has a courier company is unrelated and shouldn't be discussed in the 'underweight snakes' discussion; that is for the 'noah's ark delivered my snakes late and cold' discussion.
This has started out as Craig Ford Python man (Jonnyboy) selling snakes underweight to a full scale investigation by the forum detectives into him and everything he does on this site, car sites etc etc.

As far as i remember on the original thread, when he was Craig Ford Python Man, he offered a refund or partial refund but people decided to dig about. Yeah great, you've uncovered a scammer but i don't see what the courier side of him has to do with the underweight snakes. Two different issues so deal with them seperately.