Advice and opinion required about problem crested gecko sold by Sarah-Jayne

[Sarah-Jayne]

Ok this is the only reply I will make on this thread...

First of all I never once said he was too small for breeding, I did not advertise him as a breeding gecko. I did however say he was smaller than the females I had last year.

Secondly I never noticed that there was anything wrong with his eye, if I had noticed it then I would have sorted it out. I thought his eyes (yes both of them) looked very brown, but I assumed that was because he has been very pale lately and not fired up. As far as I was aware nothing was wrong with him, he was eating fine and was active. I also never once said that it must have happened in transit!

I sold him because I knew he was not getting the attention he deserved here, I didnt handle him anymore but he was well looked after and cleaned out and fed regularly as you would expect.

I cannot physically refund the buyer because I simply do not have the money and I am not going to have it for a long time. As of 3 weeks tomorrow I will be unemployed.

I never once told the buyer to sell him on to recover costs. She said she bought a male crested gecko that she couldn't breed and said she didn't want a pet one, so I said she should sell him, purely because she was saying she didn't want him.

I blocked her on MSN because she was being very rude accusing me of neglecting my pet etc and I was not going to get in to a big argument.

I am saying no more because I am not getting in to arguments on here.

You can ask anyone I have sold animals to before and they will tell you that all my animals are very well cared for and are nice and healthy.

[nuttybabez]

If she genuinely didn't notice as it sounds is the case then thats fair enough.

But now it has been pointed out, she should offer a refund and have the crestie back IMO. If she then wants to sell it as a pet with odd coloured eyes then fair enough, thats her choice.

I personally would not pay your vet fees as he is not in need of emergency treatment, but I would offer you a refund, which it seems she hasn't and thats a bit unfair really!

[marcgroovyge]

Originally Posted by sparkle

he wont be getting moved on im not selling him to recoup my losses , I would have reluctantly accepted a full refund but also one more vet consultaton fee which is the minimum he will need. It is almost as if she is saying that if he was still with her she wouldnt be willing to have vet care paid for either.. which is sad

That is bull ! Ive had enough! You do not listen! She has offered money towards vet fees. You only wanted to breed him. And by doing a refund you would have to send him back (move him again). She has had many convos with you saying she didnt realise he was in that state and its not good enough for you. You should learn from your mistakes and take morwe care when buying over the internet!

Marc

[messengermatt]

If it bothers you that much i will send you £10 just so she doesnt get more upset about this thread.

Did you actually pay 2 consulation fees today for the vet seing your water dragon and Sparx? this is not likely which would mean you still have the funds for the next visit.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by marcgroovyge

It is also your responsability to 100% check over a reptile before you buy it. I personally know Sarah and what you say is not true. She does care and didnt do this on purpose. She has said that she would help with vet fees but all you seem interested in is breeding. Which is wrong.

You failed to ask any questions about his health or even ask for pics of all angles (hence the distance and why you had to courier) maybe you should accept you are at fault too.

Hold on.

I am not JUST interested in breeding. I did express to her he was for breeding with my female dalmation next year if his weight was ok.

She has said she will NOT be rfunding me anymore vet costs, if this is untrue I will retract everyhting I have said here remove the thread and appologise.


I did not say she did this on purpose , however it was negelctful and unfair. noone can be judged on what they do before they know there is an issue however you CVAN be judged AFTER you know of a problem.

She did say last weekend she would help with vet bills. I asked her this evening to do so and she said she would not be refunding anything more. So she backed out of the agreement.

I appreciate buying without viewing can be risky but i trusted Sarah-Jayne. She intially semed upset and concerned now she doesnt.

I made a vet appointment for him asap.. and will be taking him to further vet appointments irrespective of her refunding me. She did not notice nor check him.

i noticed immediately and took him right away to be checked professionally. i will keep doing so if needed.

As for your nasty throw-away comment about breeding. Anyone who knows me will be able to tell you my animal care comes first breedind second however this male was bought for breeding.. why is this wrong??

I have bought a male potentially that cannot be bred from which is not the end of the world but people on here buy animals each day for breeding programmes and I cant see why that is cruel... he will need long term medical bills possibly, this is unfair on me when it did not happen in my care .

Whilst i fully appreciate your loyalty to her and her inability to notice obvious issues with her own animal her inability is not my fault.

I will at least learn not to trust people who SEEM nice over MSN.

And be overly cautious in future.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by messengermatt

If it bothers you that much i will send you £10 just so she doesnt get more upset about this thread.

Did you actually pay 2 consulation fees today for the vet seing your water dragon and Sparx? this is not likely which would mean you still have the funds for the next visit.

I paid for fecals and ONE consultation fee.

The water dragon did not require payment as it was a post operative check.

[messengermatt]

I dont think your response is unfair, Sarah does care but refuses to speak to you because you dont listen to what she is saying.

Once again i will say this: SHE DOESNT NEGLECT HER REPS!

It has also been bought to my attention that you said to sarah jayne last week that you didnt think you would have to pay the other £35 as he would be seen the same time as your water dragon.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by marcgroovyge

That is bull ! Ive had enough! You do not listen! She has offered money towards vet fees. You only wanted to breed him. And by doing a refund you would have to send him back (move him again). She has had many convos with you saying she didnt realise he was in that state and its not good enough for you. You should learn from your mistakes and take morwe care when buying over the internet!

Marc

So it is 100% my fault for not taking care to know she didnt realise her animal had a defective eye.

She has said she will not be refunding ANY more to me tonight, she said this on msn.

I see that makes perfect sense, thanks for pointing that out and as for breeding where do you THINK crested geckos come from??
do not even try to make me feel bad by saying im a terrible person for buying an animal for my breeding project thats ridiculous.



as usualy its clear that no responsibility will be taken for something that clearly was there before the sale.. her not noticing is not an excuse it is a reason.. but a poor one.

I am at fault for trusting someone else I was not able to meet face to face... I fully agree there..

I will leave this thread open for now. I expect no further refund offers however.

[marcgroovyge]

Originally Posted by sparkle

Hold on.

I am not JUST interested in breeding. I did express to her he was for breeding with my female dalmation next year if his weight was ok.

She has said she will NOT be rfunding me anymore vet costs, if this is untrue I will retract everyhting I have said here remove the thread and appologise.


I did not say she did this on purpose , however it was negelctful and unfair. noone can be judged on what they do before they know there is an issue however you CVAN be judged AFTER you know of a problem.

She did say last weekend she would help with vet bills. I asked her this evening to do so and she said she would not be refunding anything more. So she backed out of the agreement.

I appreciate buying without viewing can be risky but i trusted Sarah-Jayne. She intially semed upset and concerned now she doesnt.

I made a vet appointment for him asap.. and will be taking him to further vet appointments irrespective of her refunding me. She did not notice nor check him.

i noticed immediately and took him right away to be checked professionally. i will keep doing so if needed.

As for your nasty throw-away comment about breeding. Anyone who knows me will be able to tell you my animal care comes first breedind second however this male was bought for breeding.. why is this wrong??

I have bought a male potentially that cannot be bred from which is not the end of the world but people on here buy animals each day for breeding programmes and I cant see why that is cruel... he will need long term medical bills possibly, this is unfair on me when it did not happen in my care .

Whilst i fully appreciate your loyalty to her and her inability to notice obvious issues with her own animal her inability is not my fault.

I will at least learn not to trust people who SEEM nice over MSN.

And be overly cautious in future.

1.You didnt buy him for breeding yet you wanted to breed him?

2. She offered to help with vet fees bout because she wont refund you she backed out of helping with vet fees?

3. Nasty comment - A pet is NOT a reason to make money! Your sick if you treat any animal that way. Not aimed at you but revise 1.

4. You will take him to the vet IF needed

5. If needed then why the long term medical bills?

6. Revise why you own pets before you put down other people. Yes you had a bad experience but other people have worse

[messengermatt]

I think we are all waiting for you to respond to Sarah-Jaynes post