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Old 22-10-2009, 12:55 AM
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please dont think for one minute im sticking up for him but with the way things are at the moment people are finding it very difficult business wise and there are people that do stick the head in the sands and hope it goes away nearly every person dreads the thought of bills coming through the door etc and ignores them till the last minute as i said im not sticking up for him but he doesnt legally have to finish your vivs and the police cant do a thing about it as its a civil matter if he hasnt commited fraud which he hasnt if he can prove hes been paying for materials and trying to complete orders and whats going to happen u take him to court he'll say hes on benefits and all he can afford is a pound a month and thats all ur get. Its not also fair saying hes not a business man etc as i know a few people who have run very very sucessful business's and have gone under this year and they where def good businessmen
police can and have done something not to mention having to declare yourself bankrupt can have a huge effect on someones life, and if he doesnt sort this mess out he'll be in deeper shit for a long time, he also claims to be a buisiness so legally he has to pay one way or another.
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Old 22-10-2009, 10:58 AM
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please dont think for one minute im sticking up for him but with the way things are at the moment people are finding it very difficult business wise and there are people that do stick the head in the sands and hope it goes away nearly every person dreads the thought of bills coming through the door etc and ignores them till the last minute as i said im not sticking up for him but he doesnt legally have to finish your vivs and the police cant do a thing about it as its a civil matter if he hasnt commited fraud which he hasnt if he can prove hes been paying for materials and trying to complete orders and whats going to happen u take him to court he'll say hes on benefits and all he can afford is a pound a month and thats all ur get. Its not also fair saying hes not a business man etc as i know a few people who have run very very sucessful business's and have gone under this year and they where def good businessmen
So Chris is on Benefits, and running a business?

Is that not fraud?

I wonder if the DWP is aware of all his earnings and money coming into the business, some £3000 from RFUK alone?
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Old 22-10-2009, 12:02 PM
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So Chris is on Benefits, and running a business?

Is that not fraud?

I wonder if the DWP is aware of all his earnings and money coming into the business, some £3000 from RFUK alone?
i suggest if your going to go down that route gothgirl you get it spot on,
i was running a business but as you remember as of 2 months ago i was unable to take any more orders.

it was from this point that i claimed benifits.

just bear one little thing in mind, if i have no income at all or have to go and work a full time job in order to get an income, when do you get your goods.

it seems to me that some of you on here want to push and push and push.

ok im done with posting on here i have told you all my situation anyone who wants any more updates can pm me.


mods, feel free to ban me from the forum whenever you like, people here have my email, and phone number, i have 3 months to get this done so i will use it.
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Old 22-10-2009, 12:44 PM
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So Chris is on Benefits, and running a business?

Is that not fraud?

I wonder if the DWP is aware of all his earnings and money coming into the business, some £3000 from RFUK alone?




well yer your right there dont no where he would stand if he went on benefits after he stopped taking money for orders and as such closed the business
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Old 22-10-2009, 02:02 PM
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i suggest if your going to go down that route gothgirl you get it spot on,
i was running a business but as you remember as of 2 months ago i was unable to take any more orders.

it was from this point that i claimed benifits.

just bear one little thing in mind, if i have no income at all or have to go and work a full time job in order to get an income, when do you get your goods.

it seems to me that some of you on here want to push and push and push.

ok im done with posting on here i have told you all my situation anyone who wants any more updates can pm me.


mods, feel free to ban me from the forum whenever you like, people here have my email, and phone number, i have 3 months to get this done so i will use it.
there you go again, doing your hard done by, nobody understands bit. So, SO SICK OF IT. you got yourself into this. all we done was send you our money.

i think there is a large serving of humble pie required here, and i for one ain't hungry.

the only person i can see pushing and pushing is yourself. i mean how much more patient do you expect people to be?

and one more question i've posed but have never received an answer to. what have you been doing all this time, that the backlog is exactly the same as it was three months ago?
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Old 23-10-2009, 10:23 AM
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I would suggest that all those involved should make sure they still make a complaint to the Police.

Even if he has been given 3 months to sort out I think you have already waited long enough and at least you would be logged as complainants against him if in 3 months more excuses arise with orders not being delivered.

Also if all the orders are received then you can withdraw the complaint.
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Old 23-10-2009, 04:42 PM
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i suggest if your going to go down that route gothgirl you get it spot on,
i was running a business but as you remember as of 2 months ago i was unable to take any more orders.

it was from this point that i claimed benifits.

just bear one little thing in mind, if i have no income at all or have to go and work a full time job in order to get an income, when do you get your goods.

it seems to me that some of you on here want to push and push and push.

ok im done with posting on here i have told you all my situation anyone who wants any more updates can pm me.


mods, feel free to ban me from the forum whenever you like, people here have my email, and phone number, i have 3 months to get this done so i will use it.
Chris,
Instead of "throwing your teddy out of the pram" get a list up on the other thread showing the customers date order and a realistic delivery date, at least everybody will know what is going on, this latest outburst is not helping your cause at all.
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Old 23-10-2009, 06:29 PM
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i suggest if your going to go down that route gothgirl you get it spot on,
i was running a business but as you remember as of 2 months ago i was unable to take any more orders.

it was from this point that i claimed benifits.

just bear one little thing in mind, if i have no income at all or have to go and work a full time job in order to get an income, when do you get your goods.

it seems to me that some of you on here want to push and push and push.

ok im done with posting on here i have told you all my situation anyone who wants any more updates can pm me.


mods, feel free to ban me from the forum whenever you like, people here have my email, and phone number, i have 3 months to get this done so i will use it.
Chris, can you hear that? It's everyone you've screwed playing you the worlds smallest violin.

Boo hoo, poor you.

If you ever actually intend to make these products why don't you get a move on and do it instead of moaning about how unfair everyone is being?
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Old 23-10-2009, 11:08 PM
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ok as stated above i was arrested on wednesday and my computers etc were seized, however after the police have seen the equipment, moulds (the ones i stole, remember) and various tools and materials, aswell as customer orders waiting to be sent or completed. they have this evening at 9:10pm brought all my computer equipment back.

i dont particularly care what you lot think of me, scammer, not a scammer, bad business skills or any of that. what i do care about is the fact the police saw that this is not fraud.

The detective dealing with this has a my bank statements from pretty much the start and can clearly see that 95% of the expenditure was for business use, materials etc.

i have been advised by the police as a matter of courtesy to let my CUSTOMERS know the current situation, so heres the deal.

I have no money and am running on benifits, this is my only income now and its being spent on these outstanding orders, my laptop and snakes are up for sale aswell to bring in more cash to build the items outstanding.
i have been advised by police to give a time scale of 3 months to complete orders due, then that way if i get them done earlier then thats a bonus.

i am trying to get in touch with lisa to arrange delivery of her rack so if anyone can get in touch faster then please can someone get me her address, as i dont appear to have it.

i admit in the past i have fobbed you off and tried to buy time to get orders sorted, it is no nor was it ever my intention to rip people off.

oh and graeme (slippery) yes you did offer to bankroll my business, thank you for the offer, however the reason i reffused at the time was not because of my being a scammer but more so that i was unsure of how to get out of the mess i was in.

for those who have been trying to ring me my mobile number is 07861762549 i cannot call anyone back or receive texts as the line is now cut off pending payment.

some of you have my address, anyone else (customers only) who wants it can pm me for it. that way if you want to take civil action then you have the relevant details.


And 1 final note, when amy let admin know the situation, she did so on my request. she was the only person of which i had a number to contact her on at the time. as has been pointed out before amy is also waiting for goods so what reason does she have to lie?

anyway, like i said your orders are being done, no more BS but its going to take a bit of time, unless slippery still wants to bank roll the business of course....


i have just checked my emails, and i dont have any from anyone, i can only assume at this point that emails are being sent through the website address, for some reason i cannot download emails from the website email address, so if anyone needs to email me please do so by using this email address

recsvivs@hotmail.co.uk

he says that 95 % of the money was spent on materials ect to build these, and goes on about that he is on benifits and this is his only income to build the outstanding orders, just full of crap and i feel for all ur guys and im glad i didnt buy that rack from him now
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Old 24-10-2009, 08:00 AM
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I am tempted to start a thread called "Homage to Recs", with all the memorable things Chris has said in the past!

The first time I spoke to him and asked him if this was a scam he said:
"I am going to make more money out of this than you will see in a lifetime!"
Priceless!
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