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Old 19-11-2009, 02:09 AM
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The problem I see with 'make me an offer' is simple, on Sunday I saw a 2 year old beautifully marked male Burmese go for £30.00, guy needed to be rid, market force came into play.

This year Western Hognoses have been commanding silly prices in the trade, trouble being that the people who follow the trend are going to breed for next year and expect this year's prices. Glut in the market prices tumble, breeders are left with stock they either 'give away' (in their mind) or could be stuck with waiting for the next low breeding year.

This year I know breeders who cannot give away bearded dragons.

Personally I like to see a price so I can then have a look around and see where that stands in relation to the market.
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Old 19-11-2009, 10:27 AM
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whats so difficult about setting your baseprice

Seriously its not an auction it's a sale, i dont get people who just say "Make me an offer" because half the time they dont know the price of what they are selling anyway and expect something close to petshop prices. To save time and arguements just put what your willing to sell it at
Or read the post/s properly and see that i am actually referring to. Sales that include a guide price, and also include the option to make offers (because people NORMALLY want to haggle a price that they deem appropriate, and not just pay the asking price straight up).
What about the other half? Do you just not 'get people'?


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The problem I see with 'make me an offer' is simple, on Sunday I saw a 2 year old beautifully marked male Burmese go for £30.00, guy needed to be rid, market force came into play.

This year Western Hognoses have been commanding silly prices in the trade, trouble being that the people who follow the trend are going to breed for next year and expect this year's prices. Glut in the market prices tumble, breeders are left with stock they either 'give away' (in their mind) or could be stuck with waiting for the next low breeding year.

This year I know breeders who cannot give away bearded dragons.

Personally I like to see a price so I can then have a look around and see where that stands in relation to the market.
I fully understand this. I have the same issue this only only with Leos. There is a glut and therefore they don't sell. I don't blame people allowing others to make offers though, i put it down to the simple economics of supply and demand.
The option to make an offer, in my opinion, needs to stand as otherwise people would not buy at all in most cases. They would simply see the asking price, then decide that it is more than they are willing to pay (even if it is not more than they are willing to pay, they feel like they are on the continent learning how to haggle and just refuse to cough up point blank) and walk away.
If the option to make an offer is there, they will in most cases do so.

Case scenario:

  • There is a guide price (high or low, it's your opinion)
  • There is also the option to forward offers to the seller
What is difficult about this?
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Old 19-11-2009, 12:04 PM
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If you have something to sell then putting a price is really not hard to do. I dont see the point in offers because if you have a set price your willing to go down as far as, then why not just put it. If you really want a better price then simply state the amount you'd like, if you get no interest you can always go back and lower the price.

Offers are a pain in the neck, it's a waste of time, a lot of messing about waiting on replies and actually quite offputting. The only time I think offers are reasonable to be put in sellers ads are if they are happy to swap for another animal. Then at least state what sort of animal you'd be happy to swap for.

If it's just straight forward cash your after though then please put a price (not offers).

I would never barter for an animal as I cant be bothered with the endless pm's etc. I also dont find it fun having to make offers. I like to know what the price is straight away so I can decide if I want to pay it or not. I dont want to barter only then to find that i've wasted my time because any fair offers ive made have been refused.
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Old 19-11-2009, 12:08 PM
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I HATE having to make an offer for something, id rather someone said "Normal Leopard Gecko Male, Offers around £30" I would be interested, and probs would buy. However if it just said offers, how the hell do i know what price the seller has in mind.

If you want to sell, make me want to buy
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Old 19-11-2009, 06:31 PM
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Wow, not many of you read the post did you, not before replying anyway - eesh.
I think i may have titled this wrong, maybe it should have read:

'Make me an offer, based on £X...what's so difficult about that?'

Then again, you're not meant to judge a book by its cover so i suppose it's not me that's in the wrong, but some of you guys for not reading what's written.
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Old 20-11-2009, 01:15 AM
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'Make me an offer, based on £X...what's so difficult about that?'

The problem is some people are delusional about what their critter is actually worth. You then offer current market price and they get all twisted about you 'trying to rip them off and other nonsense'.

Anything is only worth what the buyer is prepared to pay, anything else is pure flumdiddle.
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Old 20-11-2009, 12:50 PM
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'Make me an offer' is too open, and can take loads of pm's and time to get to the real required price from the seller.

I'd say, let's all stick to price is '£XX', or sensible offers.

Anyone interested would not go in at say half price on the listed price then, as that wouldn't really be sensible.....

I had an 'offer' accepted recently, but the seller was really good and I actually asked for a guide price to establish what ballpark they were after.
I then replied saying, well I was looking more at '£xx' and they came up with something closer to that mark, but not bang on it. I accepted their 'fair offer'. Simples.....

The problem with 'make me an offer' with absolutely no inkling of what the seller is interested in takin, you can be miles apart on valuation. If you are never going to sell for less than say 50 quid, why not list at 70 and add, or reasonable offer. You then have some leeway to bargain with. Someone offers 15 quid, tell em no thanks, 55/60 you may be OK with it....
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Old 23-11-2009, 05:35 PM
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Wow, not many of you read the post did you, not before replying anyway - eesh.
I think i may have titled this wrong, maybe it should have read:

'Make me an offer, based on £X...what's so difficult about that?'

Then again, you're not meant to judge a book by its cover so i suppose it's not me that's in the wrong, but some of you guys for not reading what's written.

you'll find that people will make OFFER's anyway unless it states NON-Negotiable, if there is a base price i dont see the difficulty in placing an offer. but yeah mayb you should of renamed your title
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