DWA without a licence

[SiUK]

Originally Posted by mrcarlxx

why? just because i dont like them doesnt mean i dont want anyone else to have them! understand now?

well your coming across as if you think that everyone that keeps DWA is stupid for wanting to do so.

[MJ75]

Originally Posted by mrcarlxx

right i am going to use mr x as a example.

mr x lives in a high rated area he has to pay a large sum of money for his licence.

mr x is 50+ years old and has been keeping dwa with no problems for 30 years, but looses his job (gets made redundant or something) so...the time comes to re-new his piece of paper but does not have the money!!

these animals are mr x's pets and has kept them for a number of years....so what does he do with them now?...does this piece of paper mean he is unfit/unable to look after his pets any longer?

Mr X will have more serious financial concerns and should sell his collection to fund his basic living costs. Therefore he won't face additional hardship when fined for keeping illegal animals. Simple.............

On a serious note.... Mr X no longer has valid insurance. Therefore why should he keep them if one of his animals of which he is responsible for injures someone and causes them financial hardship. As he's now out of a job, he may not be able to meet a compensation claim etc.

[HABU]

DWA keepers shouldn't be smug... having haves and have nots invites smug-ness...


a ten year old can keep a rattlesnake here and do...


... educate, not intimidate.

[mythicdawn07]

Originally Posted by SiUK

well your coming across as if you think that everyone that keeps DWA is stupid for wanting to do so.

if you read his posts you would see thats not what he think's.

[mrcarlxx]

Originally Posted by MJ75

Mr X will have more serious financial concerns and should sell his collection to fund his basic living costs. Therefore he won't face additional hardship when fined for keeping illegal animals. Simple.............

On a serious note.... Mr X no longer has valid insurance. Therefore why should he keep them if one of his animals of which he is responsible for injures someone and causes them financial hardship. As he's now out of a job, he may not be able to meet a compensation claim etc.

lol fair point, plus he could sell them all and make a fortune....well could mr x sell them? haveing no licence?

[SiUK]

Originally Posted by mythicdawn07

if you read his posts you would see thats not what he think's.

I have been and thats my opinion

[mrcarlxx]

Originally Posted by SiUK

well your coming across as if you think that everyone that keeps DWA is stupid for wanting to do so.

thats funny, i have just been defending dwa keepers side for the last couple of hours

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by mrcarlxx

lol fair point, plus he could sell them all and make a fortune....well could mr x sell them? haveing no licence?

Actually, Mr. X won't make much money selling the animals because, with such a limited market for DWA animals, prices just CAN'T be sky-high. Last I checked, a diamondback rattler could cost less than a normal corn snake.

And without the licence, I'm not sure Mr. X CAN sell them... certainly he can't sell them to anyone who doesn't have a licence.

But I sure can empathise with Mr. X on that one - if I'd been keeping an animal for twenty years legally, become attached to it and suddenly don't have the financial means to pay a high council licence fee... how gutted would you be to have to sell an animal you've cared for for the last two decades?

I very much like some DWA species myself - Gilas among them - but when or if we decide to make that step it is going to be with the full knowledge and acceptance of our local council.

[SiUK]

Originally Posted by mrcarlxx

thats funny, i have just been defending dwa keepers side for the last couple of hours

[MJ75]

I think the people who see the license cost as unnecesary should ask themselves, if they get hit by a car when travelling themselves would they think :-

A) I hope he's got insurance.

B) Ah well, it was his fault but it doesn't matter if he's no insurance as it's an uneccesary cost So I'll just deal with the costs I have to incur even though it's not my fault.

So if YOU suffered injury and costs because you were injured by a neighbours DWA pet what would you think then? Would you want the keeper prosecuted? Would you take civil action against the keeper? Or would you want both? It's a no brainer for me......