White lipped tree vipers

[Freeman]

Does anyone have any useful info or experience with these, as Ive been interested in them for a while. I dont have any experience with venomous snakes and if these are going to be a nightmare by venomous snake standards, I wont bother but they are stunning and I want arboreal snakes at some point anyway.

[emergency0311]

I had one in an exo terra viv. As soon as I opened the viv door one day, she flew out straight at me. Literally launched her whole body at me!

I hooked her up straight away and put her back. Made me jump to say the least lol.

[salvatoruk]

Hi,

They certainly aren't the worst beginner venomous snake but in my own opinion they are not the best.
The main reason being is they are not the greatest feeders. It is common to have to assist feed them for months at a time and obviously everytime you have to pin and assist feed them you're hugely increasing the chances of a bite.
I have a very large wild caught female and a sub adult captive bred male currently and neither are feeding on their own. They are also pretty quick to strike and as with all arboreals have a good reach on them.
With the above said I would not rule them out as it was infact my first venomous snake... What I would say is if you can find a healthy individual that you know is feeding unaided then they are pretty easy work. Their general maintenance is low and they hook very easily too.

Hope this helps a bit,

Laurie

[bladeblaster]

sorry to go off topic a little, but what is generally as a good first venomous, if such a thing exists.

I would imagine nothing arboreal, as I know how much of a pain arboreal constrictors can be if you need to move them etc.

[salvatoruk]

Originally Posted by bladeblaster

sorry to go off topic a little, but what is generally as a good first venomous, if such a thing exists.

I would imagine nothing arboreal, as I know how much of a pain arboreal constrictors can be if you need to move them etc.

You're spot on there, there is no perfect starter venomous snake. The keeper needs to find the one that suits them best. A perfect starter for one person would be a death wish for another. Search this forum and you'll find countless threads on it I'm sure. If nothing good comes up (fairly likely) go on Midlands Venomous forums as on there all replies will be from experienced venomous keepers and not over opinionated kids

[bladeblaster]

Originally Posted by salvatoruk

You're spot on there, there is no perfect starter venomous snake. The keeper needs to find the one that suits them best. A perfect starter for one person would be a death wish for another. Search this forum and you'll find countless threads on it I'm sure. If nothing good comes up (fairly likely) go on Midlands Venomous forums as on there all replies will be from experienced venomous keepers and not over opinionated kids

cheers, I'm not looking at getting into venomous, but was interested to see if there was a concencous as to what would be considerd a particualrly docile species or anything like that

[mad martin]

Snakes vary from individual to individual. I am a firm believer of snakes to avoid as opposed to snakes to get. The list is rather smaller

[ViperLover]

Originally Posted by Freeman

Does anyone have any useful info or experience with these, as Ive been interested in them for a while. I dont have any experience with venomous snakes and if these are going to be a nightmare by venomous snake standards, I wont bother but they are stunning and I want arboreal snakes at some point anyway.

They look really nice from the pictures I saw.

DWA is required....It costs more to get that set up then the actual animal itself.

I'm 16, and I want to get into the hobby...But I'm not even going to think of DWA untill I have genual snake experience and a steady job. Someone I was talking to yesterday said it cost him over 6 grand to get his hot room set up to meet the requirements of the council. Something I cannot afford to do untill I have a job, and have no chance anyway because i'm only 16.

What snakes do you keep mate? I'm looking to get a King or a Corn...Theyre lovely animals

[mad martin]

Viperlover, what you did there is what pisses people off.

You have no idea of what is needed, how to set it up, what to look for, even how to apply for a DWA etc.
You are at a stage where you need to read and learn, not write and look foolish

[Jczreptiles]

Originally Posted by ViperLover

They look really nice from the pictures I saw.

DWA is required....It costs more to get that set up then the actual animal itself.

I'm 16, and I want to get into the hobby...But I'm not even going to think of DWA untill I have genual snake experience and a steady job. Someone I was talking to yesterday said it cost him over 6 grand to get his hot room set up to meet the requirements of the council. Something I cannot afford to do untill I have a job, and have no chance anyway because i'm only 16.

What snakes do you keep mate? I'm looking to get a King or a Corn...Theyre lovely animals

Maybe thats why he posted this in the DWA section