DAVE's VIVARIUMS - Quality

[maffy]

Originally Posted by leecb0

I asked him for a price to make me some vivs, i will need around 40 over the nesxt year or so but i wanted them making out of osb......i waited and pm'd and waited and pm'd for a price......made them myself in the end.....i dont get a lot of time off so thought it would be a good idea and he only lives down the road

not sure what osb is, sorry. ?

i gave a recommendation as this viv is seriously good.

loved the spitting cobra by the way! niiiiicee.

[leecb0]

orientated strand board if you see the viv in the photos on the floor to my right thats made from it i and a few others use it its cheap board that they use around building sites usually but i coat the inside of it with V8 OR G4 pond paint its better than yaght varnish you could fill up the bottom of my vivs with water and it wont leak or warp the wood awsome stuff but expensive...will take spraying everyday and out last any melamine viv

[MrLizardBoi97]

nice vivs fair price

[maffy]

Originally Posted by leecb0

orientated strand board if you see the viv in the photos on the floor to my right thats made from it i and a few others use it its cheap board that they use around building sites usually but i coat the inside of it with V8 OR G4 pond paint its better than yaght varnish you could fill up the bottom of my vivs with water and it wont leak or warp the wood awsome stuff but expensive...will take spraying everyday and out last any melamine viv

osb contains all types of wood - how do you know that the various types of wood used are safe for reptiles?

contiboard is prepared at manufacture to very high standards, strong and beautiful.

if you were going to build 10s and 100s of vivs per week...and your time was very precious also (working 100 hours a week on average...) what wood would you choose to provide customers?

What wood would you choose tongue twister hilarity.

One that is prepared to manufacturer standards, probably. And also one where you'll deliver to customers in a reasonable timeframe.

If you built your own vivs, well done. Using contiboard I couldn't better Dave's quote and definitely not the quality.

[leecb0]

Originally Posted by maffy

osb contains all types of wood - how do you know that the various types of wood used are safe for reptiles?

contiboard is prepared at manufacture to very high standards, strong and beautiful.

if you were going to build 10s and 100s of vivs per week...and your time was very precious also (working 100 hours a week on average...) what wood would you choose to provide customers?

What wood would you choose tongue twister hilarity.

One that is prepared to manufacturer standards, probably. And also one where you'll deliver to customers in a reasonable timeframe.

If you built your own vivs, well done. Using contiboard I couldn't better Dave's quote and definitely not the quality.

as i said i coat the osb with v8 or g4 pond paint this seals the timber so it makes no difference what wood is used, and my vivs will outlast any melamine built viv especially one that is sprayed twice a day due to the water not being to penatrate the wood where as a melamine viv will eventually warp with constant watering as the water penatrates the silicone sealant. dont get me wrong i do have melamine vivs but i usually use them for snakes that need a dryer enviroment.
And the reason i asked Dave for a quote was if he could build melamine vivs for the price he does then with qsb being cheaper then i would have been willing to pay for them to be made for me

[maffy]

Lee, I aint a wood expert but i'd say that drilling holes in contiboard is way easier and less prone to splitting etc.

Spraying all those boards would be very time intensive and would not guarantee manufacturers standards.

Look, all I'm saying is I once turned down an £80k IT deal with a customer because their requirement didn't meet the standards or workflow criteria set by the company.

Third rule of sales - the customer is not the expert. That's why they pay you.

First rule is ensure customer satisfaction.
Second will follow - making a reasonable profit. This includes time and resource.

It all comes down to personal choice. Existing contiboard vivs in my dedicated reptile room are five years old and the wood is in truly perfect condition.

All said though, does this debate really matter? You've built your own vivs anyway. I just thought I'd give an honest tradesman a recommendation.

[leecb0]

WTF are you talking about?????????

[joeyboy]

Originally Posted by leecb0

WTF are you talking about?????????

Smoked haddock has a milder taste then Kipper.

[maffy]

Lee, using phrasiology that is foul and abusive (to me anyway) on an open forum means that I have to put it very simply for you.

An osb viv would:

1. take longer for a professional tradesman to prepare, build and sell to customers.

2. would not provide the manufacturers standard of finish for contiboard.

3. be substandard in quality as compared with contiboard for the purpose of building vivs.

However in fairness (and its not my business to be honest) your vivs are likely perfect Lee.

This is because you had an excess amount of time to prepare the wood during the spraying process.

Also you are probably highly skilled with building stuff, unlike people like me .

[snakeskinshoes]

AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE, COS STONE COLD SAID SO!
(Just because I could)