DAVE's VIVARIUMS - Quality

[leecb0]

Originally Posted by maffy

Lee, using phrasiology that is foul and abusive (to me anyway) on an open forum means that I have to put it very simply for you.

An osb viv would:

1. take longer for a professional tradesman to prepare, build and sell to customers.

2. would not provide the manufacturers standard of finish for contiboard.

3. be substandard in quality as compared with contiboard for the purpose of building vivs.

However in fairness (and its not my business to be honest) your vivs are likely perfect Lee.

This is because you had an excess amount of time to prepare the wood during the spraying process.

Also you are probably highly skilled with building stuff, unlike people like me .

Firstly all i wanted and asked for was him to build me the bare box/ viv simple as that this would have taken him no longer to do than making a conti board viv. i was then going to seal the internals of the viv with the pond paint...no spraying is needed. i dont understand why you keep bringing up manufacturers standards. As i have said and which you seem to not understand i have contiboard style vivs both shop bought and home built but for my my white lip vipers for instance these are sprayed/ misted dailey for humidity reasons and contiboard vivs however well made will eventually warp and become damaged however good they are sealed with silicon. Hence the reason i use and many others also do use OSB

[maffy]

All I do know is if you ask a Volvo saleperson for a custom built Morgan he'll look at you like this...

Both drive very nicely though, I like them .

Maybe Dave will look into the merits of osb vivs. Like I said, I ain't a wood or viv expert.

My guess is that as a professional he probably doesn't want to sell osb vivs in case people generally (not you) screw up the spraying/paint process.

Screws and paint and spraying considered. Things get hot.

And besides DAVE is the expert, not me. He knows more than we do.
G4 pond sealant how long to stop smelling.

[leecb0]

Originally Posted by maffy

All I do know is if you ask a Volvo saleperson for a custom built Morgan he'll look at you like this...

Not a very good salesman as i would have dealt him and sent him home and a new volvo full up with warranty and and whole load of extras, on finance at 20% flat

Both drive very nicely though, I like them .
you like them both????mind you your a Brummie what would you know about building good cars

Maybe Dave will look into the merits of osb vivs. Like I said, I ain't a wood or viv expert.
So why keep argueing the point if you arnt

My guess is that as a professional he probably doesn't want to sell osb vivs in case people generally (not you) screw up the spraying/paint process.

I have seen a viv made by him and it wasnt bad.
Screws and paint and spraying considered. Things get hot.

And besides DAVE is the expert, not me. He knows more than we do.
G4 pond sealant how long to stop smelling.

I imagine you have posted this thread to try and prove your point, but if you read it there are many people that actually have and do use it including a custom viv builder

[maffy]

Lee - we have PM'd each other but for the hilarity of your last thread...it deserves a reply

Indeed, great salespeople love a challenge, so yes, if I was amusingly asked if I was a double glazing salesperson I'd probably relish to ensure they're doubly glazed up, perhaps .

Hey, my 420GSi half leather was a great car (10yrs ago!) . My 205GTi 1.9, however, was loads of trouble although a joy to drive at the time

Volvo's are amazing these days. Morgan Aero 8, supercool. Always loved Morgans. And always will.

Jag's though are surely superduper dude?

Yep born Sutton Coldfield. BCFC through three generations.

[slippery42]

WTF are you lot on about?

Melamine vivs are basically fkn shite last 24 months etc

a bit of water and they are shagged!

ok so you dont agree........prove otherwise!

[maffy]

Originally Posted by slippery42

EDIT are you lot on about?

Melamine vivs are basically EDIT last 24 months etc

a bit of water and they are EDIT!

ok so you dont agree........prove otherwise!

Goodness me, sorry, but what an absolutely absurd and ridiculous comment from you Slippery. 24 months? Complete rubbish.

I have two 5ft contiboard vivs, one with a very large water bowl inside under a powerful ceramic heater!! The boa isn't exactly "potty trained" either and yet the vivs are around 5 years old and BOTH in PERFECT condition.

This also despite the fact that a Colombian Tegu likes clawing its way around the 2nd vivs door runners... without success amazingly!!

(side note, Tegu's eat for England given the chance!!)

So, experience and ownership - is that good enough lock tight (water)proof enough for you?

All joined wood is sealed for vivs at the edge to ensure waterproofing.

And I can honestly say that Dave sealed this new viv better than my existing vivs (which are still in perfect condition anyway and were purchased from reptile shops).

24 months...?... did you house a crocodile in there
Did you make it? No offence but I've gotta ask.

[wildlifewarrior]

Originally Posted by slippery42

WTF are you lot on about?

Melamine vivs are basically fkn shite last 24 months etc

a bit of water and they are shagged!

ok so you dont agree........prove otherwise!

completely agree with you mate....they warp and peel at the first sign of humidity and heat.

there ok for keeping cool desert species in like a cactus lol.....i prefer to use MDF/OSD with multiple coats of varnish on.....

i arent a wood expert either...but i know what my own eyes see and prefer to trust them over a sales pitch anyday

P.S. isnt this the DWA section....whats wood got to do with it.....surely if youve got wood then the 18+ section would be best?

[slippery42]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

completely agree with you mate....they warp and peel at the first sign of humidity and heat.

there ok for keeping cool desert species in like a cactus lol.....i prefer to use MDF/OSD with multiple coats of varnish on.....

i arent a wood expert either...but i know what my own eyes see and prefer to trust them over a sales pitch anyday

P.S. isnt this the DWA section....whats wood got to do with it.....surely if youve got wood then the 18+ section would be best?

I dont think maffy has any sense of humour!

I have been keeping herps for 30+ years and I've yet to come across a long lasting melamine/conti viv.

Its just too prone to absorbing moisture.

[jonny cichla]

im saying wy have wood!
when you can have plastic!
visions all the way for me please!

[maffy]

Originally Posted by wildlifewarrior

completely agree with you mate....they warp and peel at the first sign of humidity and heat.

there ok for keeping cool desert species in like a cactus lol.....i prefer to use MDF/OSD with multiple coats of varnish on.....

i arent a wood expert either...but i know what my own eyes see and prefer to trust them over a sales pitch anyday

P.S. isnt this the DWA section....

What type of varnish do you use guys?

Yacht Varnish????

Is it yacht varnish, right? Correct, yes?

So let me get this straight:

1. You use G4 pond paint despite the fact that it stinks?
G4 pond sealant how long to stop smelling.

2. You encourage the use of varnish giving off noxious fumes to reptiles?

3. You encourage varnish that smells?

Matthew ch15 verse 13:
13He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14Leave them; they are blind guides.[e] If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."

Are you still removing the caps from your venomous snakes?

Matthew ch23 verse 25:
25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

I tell you the truth, EVERY SINGLE ONE of the snakes in those vivs will die if you keep fighting against these words.

And very best to you - as I do actually say this to help you and your beloved snakes.

I DO KNOW you love your snakes very much!! And so do I.

Throw out ALL those vivs you have coated, or the snakes will die.

Maffy