pygmy rattlesnakes?

[Agkistrodon]

Fair do's. One thing I would definitely recommend, ermgravy, is finding yourself a mentor - someone who's more experienced than you and preferably has been doing it a while who can teach you how to handle venomous snakes. It's a lot better doing it that way rather than keeping at home and teaching yourself as it takes a lot of the risk out of it - you have to handle the snake in a couple of hourly mentoring sessions a week and don't have the potential responsibility of having to deal with it all the time. And if you mess up, there's someone there to pull your ass out of the fire. I'll be perfectly honest - as long as you don't have any kind of issues with your hand, wrist, and get-the-hell-away-from-those-fangs reflexes, learning to handle a pygmy rattlesnake won't be THAT hard - however you will undoubtedly make mistakes learning, and it's a lot better to have someone there who's more experienced than you to help you recover from those mistakes without injury than risk it yourself at home.

Anyways, while we're talking about them, thought I'd post up some pictures of my duskies:



Good example of the curiosity I was talking about here!:


And an extreme closeup:

[ermgravy]

its the intelligence curiosity that is the real attraction with rattlers over over snakes for me.

tank you for posting the pics!

can i just ask, how would one seriously go about looking to fina a mentor? knowing this forums response to most dwa posts im guessing pming random members is defo the wrong approach so is there any advise anyone can offer to this front? are there course or something one could pay to attend? i figure if i put the expense out first someone may be more inclined to take me serious in a conversation about being mentored?

thanks again dude!

[Victor Creed]

Originally Posted by Owzy

No I know very clever people who can't type, it was what you said not the way you said it.

And that is exactly what I meant yes, I found them, practiced a small amount of handling, took pictures of them then let them go. I was safe about it and have never revealed my adder site to anyone but one very trusted friend. No one likes argument and it seems we both have some backtracking to do, which brings me nicely onto Victor....

I have been informed by a mate you in fact a real person so I am sorry. Happily admit I am wrong... it is very strange how similar your writing & forum behavior is to the lad I was accusing you of being is though, and he has done it many times before.. but that's no excuse. Hope you can forgive my aggressiveness.

Though you are a bit nuts whoever you are

I accept your apology and appreciate a person willing to admit when they are wrong, as it does not contrary to popular belief make you lose face, but just the opposite, it shows maturity, respect (self and others), willingness to change, and an overall ability to make yourself a better person on a consistent basis. This is a prime component in the formula for growth.

I too apologize for my drunken comments last night, as it undoubtedly got out of hand and I'm sorry, I was angry and the alcohol magnified it even more so. I also understand using the street slang Americans are used to on a foreign forum may have provoked some inqueries in regards to it, so I can explain if anyone was offended by it, I don't use that word in a deragatory form, and generally in the U.S., close friends use it as a way to show brotherly love to one another, however it also comes out at other times, particularly around drunken people. I was simply raised around a lot of black, puerto rican and mixed ethnicities who considered me a "brutha". Either way, I agree as I sit here sober and realize it was not appropriate for a website, so if the infraction does head my way, I will be a man and accept it and deal with it.

I apologize again to the original poster, I hope you decide to keep post #2 as it was totally intended to help you, possibly save some of your appendages ;0 and I would delete my own posts if I could besides my initial one. I just wanted to get this final post out of the way, and now that everyone knows I am not "James", hopefully we can all be friends, talk about reptiles and drink Irish Whiskey together

[ermgravy]

eh it all went a bit haywire yest... lets just forget bout that bit of the thread.....


i do appreciate your views and comments victor i didnt mean to come across like that at all.

[Victor Creed]

Originally Posted by ermgravy

eh it all went a bit haywire yest... lets just forget bout that bit of the thread.....


i do appreciate your views and comments victor i didnt mean to come across like that at all.

I took no offense at all , My friend as we WERE the ones who desecrated your respectable thread. I hope you excel with your pygmies as they are indeed an amazing species to own.
May you be careful and God-willing, safe-handling and venom-free.

@ Agkistrodon - they are gorgeous specimens. Are they barbouri or streckeri? The pictures are rather deceiving but for some reason my mind is telling me they are large for Pygmies. My GOD, you just reminded me of how much I miss keeping Pit Vipers *sighs*

[Herpalist]

Pigs are great little snakes. I find that their crap on a hook though. Dont seem to know how to hang on...lol. I have no intention of handling it to much anywayz.

Heres a pic of my unsexed Carolina that I recently picked up.

[Agkistrodon]

Always like the carolinas, that's a pretttty snake. Whats his temperament like? I agree with you about the crap on the hook thing, the female was so big her weight balance was all off and she'd slip about and the male had about one balance point on him and fifty-odd off centre bits.

[Herpalist]

Originally Posted by Agkistrodon

Always like the carolinas, that's a pretttty snake. Whats his temperament like?

Seems steady enough in that it does not lunge at me or anything like that. Still, it wont get the chance too either if I can help it..lol. A real rubbish bin for food too. Never refuses.

[nick19]

Originally Posted by Owzy

If it is then his use of the N word above (which I feel is 100% inappropriate on this forum irregaurdless of my, his or anyone's ethnicity) is probably one of the most pathetic things he has ever done. Does he think if he says that it would convince me its definitely not a chubby white kid from England....

hay theres no need to bring england in to this we aint all twats just the odd 1 so your coment about the uk is unapropreat
sorry about spellings

[Owzy]

Originally Posted by nick19

hay theres no need to bring england in to this we aint all twats just the odd 1 so your coment about the uk is unapropreat
sorry about spellings

Lol what are you on about u nutter.. I am born & bred in England.

Think you have misunderstood what was going on completely but it does not matter its all over now.

Spelling isn't important IMO on forums as long as what you are writing can be understood though I have to say your spelling of inappropriate is pretty funky.