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Old 05-12-2007, 01:41 PM
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Am i correct in thinking that owning or selling venomoide snakes was illegal?
I was just looking through reptile keepers classifieds and clocked this........


FOR SALE Posted : 04 December 07 0.1 MONOCLED COBRA.6FT.EXC FEEDER.VENOMIDE.MAKE NICE DISPLAY IN YOUR SHOP.WELL HANDLED £250.


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Please note, i do not want a slagging match about if it is right or not, I just thought it was illegal to do it over here!

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Warren
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:06 PM
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good q, i have no idea
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Old 05-12-2007, 02:30 PM
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You still need a DWA licence for venomoid snakes. A female venomoid could still give birth (or in this case, lay eggs), and the babies would be venomous. Plus, if you were to argue that you didn't need a DWA, how would you prove that the operation to remove the venom glands etc had been successful?
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It would however be legal for a pet shop to buy one, DWA or otherwise - if the pet shop's local council allows venomous buys on the shop license.
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It would however be legal for a pet shop to buy one, DWA or otherwise - if the pet shop's local council allows venomous buys on the shop license.
correct.

In most areas a pet shop licence also allows DWA animals to be kept.

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Old 05-12-2007, 04:18 PM
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Cobras are legal with a DWA.

If we are talking about the "venemoid" part, i am not sure if tinkering with the fangs of snakes is illegal in the uk, but if so - it would be illegal for a veterinarian to perform the act.. it will be perfectly legal to import this animal from a country where the act is legal (ie. USA) and the punishment for breaking the law would be with the person who performed the act, not anyone buying / selling.

Example - it's illegal to descent skunks, it is not illegal to buy sell or own a descented skunk, but the vet can lose their license for the actual act.

Likewise many dogs have docked tails which may no longer be allowed - the people who own these dogs are not punished, only a vet if he performs the surgery.
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If it's already happened to the snake then noone can do anything about it anyway!!
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ALL licensed pet shops are allowed to keep an animal listed on the act. The exceptions to the act are anyone with a zoo or pet shop license or a circus. That's legislation so it applies to all local councils. I'm pretty sure anyone can buy or sell a DWA so long as the buyer has a license.
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that ad is legal seller is licensed, new buyer must be licensed end of
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ALL licensed pet shops are allowed to keep an animal listed on the act. The exceptions to the act are anyone with a zoo or pet shop license or a circus. That's legislation so it applies to all local councils. I'm pretty sure anyone can buy or sell a DWA so long as the buyer has a license.
not unless its specifically says on there license there not are they?
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