Calci Sand

[Zak]

Originally Posted by Faith

Show them the pic in the thread and tell them thats what is likely to happen!
Tbh as ssthisto has said there is no way that they would have that much sand in the wild and although its likely some would die of impactation we wouldnt be able to monitor the numbers.
Leopard Gecko

^ just one of the many care sheets that recomend sand as well as on on our lovely friends website called the rspca also recomend sand

Hi im GRB's friend in question and yes im fully aware of the risk of impaction, ive read through numerous sources and posted a number of times on this forums about the substrate debate.

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/lizar...al-rumour.html

I do agree that they're not sand dune geckos and live on a environment much more akin to hard rock but i would rather provide a more realistic environment with a mix of sand/rock etc than put a gecko on a paper towel. I agree paper towels are easy to clean but aestitically they're awful (selfish i know) but i also want animals to exhibit some natural behaviour through digging, routing through nooks and crannys etc.

Some people are truly against sand as a substrate but i think you'll be surprised by the number of people who do keep leo's on sand and have no problems. Just because you dont hear them on here saying its good doesnt mean people dont think it is the best substrate. In all honestly they're probably afraid to post because of flamming which does go on if someone says they use sand.

However i no way am i saying there are NO problems associated with the use of sand but then there are potential problems associated with most things. If the gecko is watched whilst eating and attention paid to its behaviour then if the sand appears to be causing a problem then feeding can be done somewhere else etc.

Now i prepare for the flamming.

[geckomad]

'pulls out flame thrower' xD

naw ive been to reptile shops all over the place and i see everyhing on sand. for example, the snake shop in sheffield keeps leos on sand and he says he hasnt had any trouble at all. its like the meallie myth, where they supposably burrow out of the stomach but thts a defo lie, its only coz the pets were old/ill and imported and died on em before they could digest the food. its a matter of choice isnt it, some people have kept leos on sand and kept them alive till they die of old age.people aught not to get flammed just coz there methods different. still against sand though

[Zak]

Originally Posted by geckomad

people aught not to get flammed just coz there methods different. still against sand though

Thankyou and your bang on its a matter of choice. If someone has researched a subject and makes a decision i cant see how its wrong, its just different to someone elses opinion. Fair enough for the people who have researched into sand and are against it, it cant stand the people who havent researched and just say it because it sounds ethical or the right thing to say.

BTW - im not keeping mine of sand, ive constructing a rock/slate flooring, which i may put sand in the small gaps inbetween the rocks.

[GRB]

Originally Posted by Zak

Thankyou and your bang on its a matter of choice. If someone has researched a subject and makes a decision i cant see how its wrong, its just different to someone elses opinion. Fair enough for the people who have researched into sand and are against it, it cant stand the people who havent researched and just say it because it sounds ethical or the right thing to say.

BTW - im not keeping mine of sand, ive constructing a rock/slate flooring, which i may put sand in the small gaps inbetween the rocks.

Hey Zak, sorry to use you in the third person as such, it was an interesting debate. have you sorted out your viv then? I'm intrigued to as to how it looks

[Zak]

Im currently in Huddersfield so havent even been home yet. Going back Sunday so will sort it out over that coming week.

I guarentee the same debate will be on another thread in under a week.

[GRB]

Originally Posted by Zak

Im currently in Huddersfield so havent even been home yet. Going back Sunday so will sort it out over that coming week.

I guarentee the same debate will be on another thread in under a week.

Ah i see. And yes, calci sand will strike again. ive only been on here about a week and its come up about 3 times!

[geckomad]

yeah too true

[Kekks]

Hey just to note the first picture is caused by bark not sand! Im confused too tho?? I hav sand in with my dwarf sand geckos as that is what i was advised to get??

[Ssthisto]

If the geckos are adapted to living on sand (and if they're the teeny yellow ones then they are) then a sand substrate should not harm them.

[AlanP]

i never listen to the corporations who produce this sort of stuff because they tend to not actually care about the health and well being of animals as long as their making money their sweet, so i think its always great to check these forums because their full of experienced people.

to be honest this Calcium sand interested me when i read about it, any time i have used bark sooner or later i have discovered mites and have had to completely refresh the tank, so the whole anti mite thing caught my attention plus it says it can be broken down and actually provides calcium for creatures so im curious to all the bad things people have been saying about using sand, are they talking about usuing real rock sand or using this calcium stuff? i dont believe everything i read and im not prepared to just go out and try it just incase somthing does happen, this is a copy and paste from a website on calcium sand so it would be cool to hear you guys views.

"Komodo CaCO3 Dessert Terrain, 100% calcium carbonate sand harvested from selected sources around the world, the first choice for Bearded Dragons, Uromastyxs and Monitor lizards.
This sand enriches the environment by encouraging digging and burrowing. Tested safe and digestible when inadvertently consumed and helps reduce mite infestations"