Bald patch on my ferrets tum?

[Rum_Kitty]

SHall do, it was about three weeks ago the lasses were last done. The amount of times I've taken them itll work out cheaper to spay lol. Its bloody expensive in my part of the country tho, cheapest I've found is 80 and thats not an experienced ferret vet. Not that I begrudge paying, its just I'm saving seperately so I dont have to dip into the emergency vet fund.

[hullhunter]

Originally Posted by Rum_Kitty

If everybody had that attitude there would be millions more dogs and cats running around...theres too many as it is. Not to mention if left unspayed and not given jabs or bred female ferrets can actually die. Sounds like a great "god given" right. I would never breed my girls there's far too many unwanted ferrets as it is! And actually I dont like children at all so yeah I'd love it if someone would spay me!

Fuzzball just keeping them on jabs just now but they will be spayed late this year, probably autumn tho.

well you said it your self they die if not mated so what dose that tell you? they should be mated. and there probly ill coz you keep injecting s**t into them.i meen its terning blue what dose that tell you.leave the por things alown.

[Rum_Kitty]

Injecting hormones. Much similar to the pill...I suppose we should stop doing that too??? So what your saying is that everybody who has female ferrets and doesnt breed them is being cruel??? That is ridiculous. There is absolutely nothing wrong with spaying an animal. If everybody bred their female ferrets every single year where the hell would we be? Knee deep in ferrets thats where! I suppose THATS not cruel, millions of ferrets with noone nice to care for them and love them. Why dont we just let em run loose too, after all thats whats NATURAL.

And BTW, blue ferret syndrome is actually common and not harmful to the ferret at all, it happens when injection or operation sites are shaved too. Perhaps you should actually LEARN about ferrets before insulting me. Spaying also prevents certain health problems.

[hullhunter]

well ive had them 10 years and neva had an ill one.so yes what do i no

[mattm]

No jills should not be mated. This inbuilt system of being induced ovulators was for wild European Polecats - not domesticated ferrets. Just because we have domesticated them that does not mean they will lose that procreation ablity. If they were "meant" to be bred, then also they were never "meant" to be domesticated, or "meant" to be fed commercial foods....or "meant" to have veterinary care when needed. What a load of rubbish.

Hullhunter your attitude actually strikes me as being very ignorant. Just because you have always bred your jills that does not make it the right thing to do in all cases - you really need to look at the bigger picture. Of course you've probably not had any problems with births or breeding - nature dictates that 9 times out of 10 a breeding will be succesful to continue the species. Doesn't make it the right thing to do.

why spay your ferrets i think its evil would you like it if someone spayed you. they are born to breed so why take there god given right away from them.

The sensible and responsible thing for any person to do that is NOT wanting to RESPONSIBLY breed from ferrets, is to spay jills and neuter hobs. As already mentioned there are millions of homeless ferrets around and breeding will often add to the problem. It IS hard finding permanent, decent homes for kits, and they do have big litters. And I hope when you home your kits, you advise all buyers to spay their jills and neuter their hobs at the appropriate age.

Jill jabs are good, but not ideal. What are you talking about "leave them alone" - if they did that they'd be dead before long. Obviously you don't know your stuff very well.

[hullhunter]

Of course you've probably not had any problems with births or breeding - nature dictates that 9 times out of 10 a breeding will be succesful to continue the species. Doesn't make it the right thing to do.



i was not talking about just breading i was talking about health in genaral.

[Rum_Kitty]

Originally Posted by hullhunter

well ive had them 10 years and neva had an ill one.so yes what do i no

Oh really? I very much doubt the truth of that statement. Either this or your ferrets HAVE been ill and you didnt actually notice.

Thanks for backing me up on this Matt, I hate it when people just breed their animals willy nilly because its "whats natural" with no thought to what happens to all those poor babies when they outgrow the cute stage and are still nipping and crapping on the floor.

[Shell195]

Originally Posted by Rum_Kitty

If everybody had that attitude there would be millions more dogs and cats running around...theres too many as it is. Not to mention if left unspayed and not given jabs or bred female ferrets can actually die. Sounds like a great "god given" right. I would never breed my girls there's far too many unwanted ferrets as it is! And actually I dont like children at all so yeah I'd love it if someone would spay me!

Fuzzball just keeping them on jabs just now but they will be spayed late this year, probably autumn tho.

Originally Posted by Rum_Kitty

Injecting hormones. Much similar to the pill...I suppose we should stop doing that too??? So what your saying is that everybody who has female ferrets and doesnt breed them is being cruel??? That is ridiculous. There is absolutely nothing wrong with spaying an animal. If everybody bred their female ferrets every single year where the hell would we be? Knee deep in ferrets thats where! I suppose THATS not cruel, millions of ferrets with noone nice to care for them and love them. Why dont we just let em run loose too, after all thats whats NATURAL.

And BTW, blue ferret syndrome is actually common and not harmful to the ferret at all, it happens when injection or operation sites are shaved too. Perhaps you should actually LEARN about ferrets before insulting me. Spaying also prevents certain health problems.

Originally Posted by mattm

No jills should not be mated. This inbuilt system of being induced ovulators was for wild European Polecats - not domesticated ferrets. Just because we have domesticated them that does not mean they will lose that procreation ablity. If they were "meant" to be bred, then also they were never "meant" to be domesticated, or "meant" to be fed commercial foods....or "meant" to have veterinary care when needed. What a load of rubbish.

Hullhunter your attitude actually strikes me as being very ignorant. Just because you have always bred your jills that does not make it the right thing to do in all cases - you really need to look at the bigger picture. Of course you've probably not had any problems with births or breeding - nature dictates that 9 times out of 10 a breeding will be succesful to continue the species. Doesn't make it the right thing to do.

The sensible and responsible thing for any person to do that is NOT wanting to RESPONSIBLY breed from ferrets, is to spay jills and neuter hobs. As already mentioned there are millions of homeless ferrets around and breeding will often add to the problem. It IS hard finding permanent, decent homes for kits, and they do have big litters. And I hope when you home your kits, you advise all buyers to spay their jills and neuter their hobs at the appropriate age.

Jill jabs are good, but not ideal. What are you talking about "leave them alone" - if they did that they'd be dead before long. Obviously you don't know your stuff very well.

I so agree with you

[hullhunter]

Jill jabs are good, but not ideal. What are you talking about "leave them alone" - if they did that they'd be dead before long. Obviously you don't know your stuff very well.

why would they be dead before long?

[mattm]

Either way it proves nothing, because you breed from all of your jills (hence producing 78 kits in a year). If none of your jills are neutered how can you possibly compare.

Spaying does *prevent* certain health problems where responsible breeding is not possible.

All of my points in my above post still stand, and you've addressed none of them?