ferret kits iv bred and keeping

[Rum_Kitty]

Originally Posted by hullhunter

i didnt say that it was there sole perpose in life but when you think about it its right. with alot of animals soon as they have bread they die i.e furfilling there life perpose.if they wernt ment to bread then they would be no ferrets would they.

Most animals that die after breeding are insects. As matt said ferrets are a man made animal not a wild one, their function is very different. I never said they werent MEANT to be bred, but you're insisting that they MUST be if you are an ethical keeper. I would argue that an ethical keeper does whats best for the jill and her potential kits...personally I think breeding loads of animals which there are already tonnes of, like ferrets, is simply condemning many of those kits to a life of cruelty. Maybe you think you are thinking of the welfare of the jill but you clearly havent thought about the welfare of the kits. How many of your new ferret homes were checked out? Did you sell them all in pairs or groups as ferrets are social? Did you give any advice, check to see if they knew about ferret care and ferret health care? because with 78 kits to rehome I very much doubt it. I bet about 25% of those kits will be in rescues by years end, with more in rescues next year.

[Shell195]

I thought this was Deja vu. Hullhunter you really need to talk to ferret rescues and see what they have to say about your opinion. If responsible owners never neutered their animals the world would be full of sick and dying pets. Yes people do have the odd litter which is fine but 78 kits in a year that is totally irresponsible.

I must be the evilest person about as my 11 dogs and 16 cats are all neutered

[hullhunter]

they ALL went to people who have and work ferrets and they all went in 4,5,6 groups.

[mattm]

[sarcasm]Shell195, how cruel of you to neuter your animals and not breed from them!!![/sarcasm]

Just because they went to people who work ferrets, that does not guarantee anything - it doesn't guarantee a good home, or a lifelong home. Are you saying people who work ferrets are better than those that just keep them as pets, or have I misunderstood??

[hullhunter]

Originally Posted by mattm

[sarcasm]Shell195, how cruel of you to neuter your animals and not breed from them!!![/sarcasm]

Just because they went to people who work ferrets, that does not guarantee anything - it doesn't guarantee a good home, or a lifelong home. Are you saying people who work ferrets are better than those that just keep them as pets, or have I misunderstood??

no im not saying who is better. what i ment is i no all the homes that they went to and why would they get rid of them soon as they are out there cute stage.they have bourght them to work. you cant work kits

[LoveForLizards]

Originally Posted by Rum_Kitty

Apparently its "cruel" and we should all just let our pets breed like rats until we are knee deep in pets.

*speaks from experience*
It's also cruel to have rescues knee deep in ferrets, having them jump at the cages everytime you walk up to them, their eyes thinking you will be getting them out for a cuddle and a play on the garden, when really you are picking out the "un-adoptable" ferrets to be taken to different rescues, foster homes and the vets - to be PTS because rescues can't afford to keep them alive and keep turning away ferrets that can go on to have a great life with a responsible family. It's not their fault, its the way they were raised, breeders expecting to make a quick cash but when the small, mal-nourished kits don't sell because others see sense they are boxed up and dumped outside a rescues door. If RESPONSIBLE PET AND WORKING owners didn't neuter their pets and workers god knows what it would be like. It's bad enough taking 10-15 ferrets a week to be PTS, let alone the hunreds/thousands that we would be if they didn't get neutered. I for one think saying that ferrets SHOULD be bred from is extremely irresponsible, uncaring and cruel. It's strange you say neutering is cruel, when it stops many fatal illnesses. How very odd.

*puts on crash helmet and waits for the bollocking bandwagon to tell me how wrong I am when they really don't have an idea in hell what its like to own a rescue watching thousands of ferrets come in and out of the doors every year, often times being abandoned and brought in by the resuce owners or being taken out by foster homes to take them to be PTS at the vets and then sent off to be incinerated because it costs too much to cremate 10-50 ferrets*

[saxon]

I know a gamekeeper who had to shoot over 300 'escapee' ferrets that the poachers/workers had lost on the moors last year.
I've found over the years, I've been 'in' ferrets for many years, working ferrets are rarely kept unless they do their job well.
There are boviously working owners who love and care for their ferrets as pets and would try to find good homes for those who 'do not cut the mustard' but many just don't give a crap.

Saying that I'm having two of fisherkings girls and I'm planning on getting them speyed so they can live with my boy.

[hullhunter]

Originally Posted by LoveForLizards

*speaks from experience*
It's also cruel to have rescues knee deep in ferrets, having them jump at the cages everytime you walk up to them, their eyes thinking you will be getting them out for a cuddle and a play on the garden, when really you are picking out the "un-adoptable" ferrets to be taken to different rescues, foster homes and the vets - to be PTS because rescues can't afford to keep them alive and keep turning away ferrets that can go on to have a great life with a responsible family. It's not their fault, its the way they were raised, breeders expecting to make a quick cash but when the small, mal-nourished kits don't sell because others see sense they are boxed up and dumped outside a rescues door. If RESPONSIBLE PET AND WORKING owners didn't neuter their pets and workers god knows what it would be like. It's bad enough taking 10-15 ferrets a week to be PTS, let alone the hunreds/thousands that we would be if they didn't get neutered. I for one think saying that ferrets SHOULD be bred from is extremely irresponsible, uncaring and cruel. It's strange you say neutering is cruel, when it stops many fatal illnesses. How very odd.

*puts on crash helmet and waits for the bollocking bandwagon to tell me how wrong I am when they really don't have an idea in hell what its like to own a rescue watching thousands of ferrets come in and out of the doors every year, often times being abandoned and brought in by the resuce owners or being taken out by foster homes to take them to be PTS at the vets and then sent off to be incinerated because it costs too much to cremate 10-50 ferrets*

well i apoligise for my ignrance i didnt know that they were so over populated. but steralisation is just some think i have neva liked but that is just my view.

[Rum_Kitty]

Originally Posted by hullhunter

they ALL went to people who have and work ferrets and they all went in 4,5,6 groups.

And just because someone "has and works ferrets" that means they are a good owner? Christ, I've heard people say you can bring a female out of heat by jabbing her in the ladybits with a blunt ended instrument! And obviously all these people neglecting their animals in the news, well they're OK, they HAVE the animals therefore they must know how to care for them.

[Rum_Kitty]

Originally Posted by LoveForLizards

*speaks from experience*
It's also cruel to have rescues knee deep in ferrets, having them jump at the cages everytime you walk up to them, their eyes thinking you will be getting them out for a cuddle and a play on the garden, when really you are picking out the "un-adoptable" ferrets to be taken to different rescues, foster homes and the vets - to be PTS because rescues can't afford to keep them alive and keep turning away ferrets that can go on to have a great life with a responsible family. It's not their fault, its the way they were raised, breeders expecting to make a quick cash but when the small, mal-nourished kits don't sell because others see sense they are boxed up and dumped outside a rescues door. If RESPONSIBLE PET AND WORKING owners didn't neuter their pets and workers god knows what it would be like. It's bad enough taking 10-15 ferrets a week to be PTS, let alone the hunreds/thousands that we would be if they didn't get neutered. I for one think saying that ferrets SHOULD be bred from is extremely irresponsible, uncaring and cruel. It's strange you say neutering is cruel, when it stops many fatal illnesses. How very odd.

*puts on crash helmet and waits for the bollocking bandwagon to tell me how wrong I am when they really don't have an idea in hell what its like to own a rescue watching thousands of ferrets come in and out of the doors every year, often times being abandoned and brought in by the resuce owners or being taken out by foster homes to take them to be PTS at the vets and then sent off to be incinerated because it costs too much to cremate 10-50 ferrets*

Hear hear.