wolves !?!?

[CrazyWolf84]

looks like many people still have differing opinions to keeping a wolf.
(1 wolf is not a good idea and i could'nt do two )
an actuall Wolf would not be correct in my opinion.
i feel that even strong dog breeds need a pack, Collies, Alsations and a few more,

all my years( not many ) i have lived with some great dogs and now not living at
home i miss the pack !
not even a good reason to own a dog
my fav dog is a border collie, but still can be too much for many dog owners. At home we also had a rhodesian ridgeback ( bitch) very intelligent
and loyal.

any decision will not be made lightly(by myself) even choosing a dog let alone a wolf breed

again thnx for your posts

[bosshogg]

Originally Posted by ryanr1987

No dog is going to prepare you for a wolf. wolves are very timid animals so if oyu live in a high populated city then i would re consider. your going to need a lot of land and a lage enclosure. i have spoke to many wolf keepers and they said that the wolf will oftern challedge for ranking so that's something to keep in mind. have you considerd the czech wolfdog? it was an experiment that took place yeas ago by crossing a gsd with a euro wolf and was successful it's now a reconsied breed in many euro countrys. they are very similar to the gsd in tempement and activeness. there's also teh sarloos wolfdog which has retained much of the wolfs timidness and behavior these are ver nervous dogs but are great family dogs. both do not require a dwa czechs cost aound £1500 amd a sarloos can cost 2000-3000

sarloos

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czech

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I would love a Czech wolfdog

[CrazyWolf84]

never thought this subject would get so many responses..

i dont think anyone should ever keep a REAL WOLF.
and i am still not sure about the other X breeds either.

maybe time for a new subject ?

like... dogs or babies ?

[Rain]

I've spent many an hour looking at how best to house wolves, and one day, I'd honestly like to home a small ish pack.
I think (well, actually I know) it can be done successfully, with a pack of happy, healthy wolves, but it's by no means an easy task. Acres of land, properly fenced, maintained, correctly built shelters, propper diet and access to clean water would be, in my opinion, a full time thing, which would for most change it from a pleasure to a chore.
And thats just the housing, the interaction, obviously based on how "tame" you wanted the wolves to be etc would be even more time.
Add in the requirements for DWA, the issues of finding any vet with experience with wolves (zooalogical vets more than likely) and their costs for even basic treatment. Also, the fact that they are not "pet dogs", so I doubt (though I could be very wrong) you would have the same level of interaction as you would with a dommestic dog.
If you have the time, money and ability to house wolves (not a wolf, a pack of wolves) then I wish you the best of luck in a persute I would give my left arm to try.
If, however, you want a "pet" wolf, then I'd say go for one of the wolf look-a-likes.

[Tazer]

Originally Posted by CrazyWolf84

never thought this subject would get so many responses..

i dont think anyone should ever keep a REAL WOLF.
and i am still not sure about the other X breeds either.

maybe time for a new subject ?

like... dogs or babies ?

Just to say, the saarloos and czechoslovakian wolfdog arn't x breeds, they are breeds in their own right.

Some info.
The saarloos, was developed starting in the 20's, by crossing a European wolf with a germanshepherd, the last wolf blood was added in the 60's. The saarloos, is more wolf like in behaviour than the czech, and is known for having problems with shyness and do not like being left alone without human or canine company. They are difficult to train, I'm told.

The Czechoslovakian wolfdog, was developed in the 50's by crossing a carpathian wolf with a germanshepherd. It was developed by the czech military, as a border guard. The czech wolfdog, is a working breed, and can be trained in shutzhund, tracking, obedience and as a search and rescue dog. Though, they still arn't an easy breed. They however, are more confident in temperament, and shyness is a falt within the breed.
This breed is soon to be recognised by our kennel club.
As for the northern inuit/utonagan/tamaskan/british inuit/aatu tamaskan/british timberdog.
They all come from the same founder stock. With maybe the exception of the new british timber dog, which as far as I'm told, could be anything that has a mildly wolf like appearance, or is a cross with a saarloos or czech wolfdog.
Breeds thought to be in the foundation stock. (Depending on who you believe, as records were not kept accurately, it really is a mess.)
Husky, germanshepherd, malamute, wolves/wolfdogs, dogs that were imported from the usa, with unknow history, mastiff. Breeds that have/could have been added, to the different types. Collie, akita czech wolfdog.
In the case of the timberdog.
Northern inuit types, germanshepherd x northern inuit types, or husky/malamute/saarloos/czech wolfdog crosses. I'm sure you get the point.
As far as temperament goes, they can be difficult I'm told, but have generally heard good things about their natures. The couple I've met were absolutely gorgeous, in appearance and temperament.
Hope this helps, and sorry for the long post.

[MJ75]

Originally Posted by Rain

I've spent many an hour looking at how best to house wolves, and one day, I'd honestly like to home a small ish pack.
I think (well, actually I know) it can be done successfully, with a pack of happy, healthy wolves, but it's by no means an easy task. Acres of land, properly fenced, maintained, correctly built shelters, propper diet and access to clean water would be, in my opinion, a full time thing, which would for most change it from a pleasure to a chore.
And thats just the housing, the interaction, obviously based on how "tame" you wanted the wolves to be etc would be even more time.
Add in the requirements for DWA, the issues of finding any vet with experience with wolves (zooalogical vets more than likely) and their costs for even basic treatment. Also, the fact that they are not "pet dogs", so I doubt (though I could be very wrong) you would have the same level of interaction as you would with a dommestic dog.
If you have the time, money and ability to house wolves (not a wolf, a pack of wolves) then I wish you the best of luck in a persute I would give my left arm to try.
If, however, you want a "pet" wolf, then I'd say go for one of the wolf look-a-likes.

Maybe you should take a break on the Alladale estate in Sutherland See if you can blag a chat with Paul Lister.

It's not the cheapest hotel in Scotland to stay at. That said, if you can't afford a weekend away there now, I wouldn't hold much hope of you ever keeping wolves yourself. Thats not a dig. Just a realistic view.

[Pimperella]

Personal Opinion from what you have put so far.
No a wolf or a wolf type breed is NOT for you.

If you think Border Collies are too much hard work then seriously, You will not be mentally able to cope with a wolf breed. I know, I have 12 of them. They are NOT for everyone. They need seriously hard work and dedication far beyond your high prey drive working breeds.

[fenwoman]

how about some 'teacup' wolves? I have some of those.

[LoveForLizards]

Originally Posted by fenwoman

how about some 'teacup' wolves? I have some of those.
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[feorag]

You could visit this web page UK Wolf Conservation Trust - Working to keep wolves in the wild and adopt a wolf.

Go along to their open day and find out about them from the experts???

A friend of mine won a competition at a cat show to go out to Siberia for a week and study wolves with Peter Neville, a well known animal behaviourist.

She wasn't a particular wolf lover and hated the great outdoors. She took her 11 year old son and said it was the best experience she'd ever had in her entire life!!