Craig Busch - 'Lion Man' - UK Tour?

[mrsTeegsta]

i think what he does is amazing how many of you do the things he does everyday how many of you let children who are dying into your world and let them live there dream his animal all look well and happy if they were un happy he would be dead they have trust in him just like he does in them how any one on here can say anything about cages is beyond me we all have skunks or ferrets rabbits snakes lizards all that should be in the whild with all the land they want but we keep them not to bread to get populations up and stop them becomin extinct but to show off your morphs and make money where he mates them as white tigers are few and farbetween as are the barbry lions excuse the spelling ppl never been very good

DONT WORRIE IM USED TO PEOPLE ON HERE SLAGGING ME OFF ABOUT MY COMMENTS SO GO AHEAD GIVE IT YOUR BEST IT DONT CHANGE THE FACT THAT ALL YOU WHO THINK YOUR BETTER THAN PPL ARE ACTUALL ARROGANT SELF CENTRED PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE ANY INTREST IN WILDLIFE AND THE FACT THAT THE WORLD IS CHANGING EVERYDAY DUE TO ANIMALS BECOMING EXTINCT YOU DONT SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE GENUINLY TRYING TO PROTECT OUR FANTASTIC ANIMAL

[bothrops]

Originally Posted by mrsTeegsta

i think what he does is amazing how many of you do the things he does everyday how many of you let children who are dying into your world and let them live there dream his animal all look well and happy if they were un happy he would be dead they have trust in him just like he does in them how any one on here can say anything about cages is beyond me we all have skunks or ferrets rabbits snakes lizards all that should be in the whild with all the land they want but we keep them not to bread to get populations up and stop them becomin extinct but to show off your morphs and make money where he mates them as white tigers are few and farbetween as are the barbry lions excuse the spelling ppl never been very good

DONT WORRIE IM USED TO PEOPLE ON HERE SLAGGING ME OFF ABOUT MY COMMENTS SO GO AHEAD GIVE IT YOUR BEST IT DONT CHANGE THE FACT THAT ALL YOU WHO THINK YOUR BETTER THAN PPL ARE ACTUALL ARROGANT SELF CENTRED PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE ANY INTREST IN WILDLIFE AND THE FACT THAT THE WORLD IS CHANGING EVERYDAY DUE TO ANIMALS BECOMING EXTINCT YOU DONT SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE GENUINLY TRYING TO PROTECT OUR FANTASTIC ANIMAL

Point 1 - If you actually read the thread you will see that the whole point is that we are argueing about the very point you are making - Craig has no interest at all in conserving rare species. If he did he WOULDN'T be breeding white tigers, white lions and ligers. He is a showman and a circus act with a 'conservation' tag to make sure laymen like yourself buy into his propaganda and give him your hard earnt. If you really want to help the tigers invest the same money here

Sumatran Tiger Trust

or here

Tiger Adoption – WWF-UK – Bengal tigers are endangered but adoption & sponsorship can help save them from extinction.

or similiar.


Point 2 - You have no idea who I am or what I do. How dare you insinuate that I am an arrogant and self centred person who does nothing to help wildlife? I have no intention of rising to your bait and kicking off. I am 100% guilt free when it comes to my own efforts both personally and professionally, but if you believe that sending money to Craig is better for big cat conservation than the above links (and many more besides) you are quite deluded and have absolutely no foundations for such rediculous and remarks and insinuations.

[mrsTeegsta]

did i call u MATE no i didnt and you know them do you and there private life whats wrong with breading white tigers come on tell me that

[LisaLQ]

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THAT'S what's wrong with breeding white tigers. Cant see him living for very long in the wild.

Your ignorance is astounding. I'm quite shocked that any woman could like a man who makes a habit out of beating ladies til their spines break.

[mrsTeegsta]

what has it got to do with you what he does in his private life darling sweet FA thats his life i would broadcast your fella beating you and i dont agree with it thankyou very much as i have been on the reciving end of a man thanks for the reminder darling i must say and no its not nice but thats his life not urs not mine or anyone elses if he was a everyday man nobody would of know about it just like my ex walked away after broken bones black eyes and the loss of a baby its life no body can stop anybody in that time it happens and the only way it would ever stop is keeping men and woman on seperate islands

[mrsTeegsta]

y dont you put all your hating into a site thats made for woman who get beat not on a REPTILE FORUM where its needed

[bothrops]

Originally Posted by mrsTeegsta

did i call u MATE no i didnt and you know them do you and there private life

You directly addressed all people on this thread that oppose Craig Busch's ethics and tactics as 'arrogant and self centred' - therefore Yes, you did!

It is blatently clear by your aggressive and confrontational tone that I am not your 'mate' and probably never will be, but that doesn't mean this has to turn into a slanging match. If you are here for a discussion then control your fingers and put forward valid, meaningful points that back up your view of Craig and his practises. If you are here for a fight then don''t bother - I'm not interested.

Originally Posted by mrsTeegsta

what has it got to do with you what he does in his private life darling sweet FA thats his life i would broadcast your fella beating you and i dont agree with it thankyou very much as i have been on the reciving end of a man thanks for the reminder darling i must say and no its not nice but thats his life not urs not mine or anyone elses if he was a everyday man nobody would of know about it just like my ex walked away after broken bones black eyes and the loss of a baby its life no body can stop anybody in that time it happens and the only way it would ever stop is keeping men and woman on seperate islands

This is a very odd stance for a victim of domestic abuse to be defending a man who commited it?

BTW I vehemently disagree that the only way to stop it is to keep men and women on seperate islands. The way to stop it is for all those guilty of it to be properly put to justice and never allowed back into proper society as they are absolutely 100% the scum of the earth....but you're right this has nothing to do with the big cats so I'll leave this one here..

Originally Posted by mrsTeegsta

y dont you put all your hating into a site thats made for woman who get beat not on a REPTILE FORUM where its needed

...we're actuall in the exotic mammal section and discussing a media prominent player in the big cat world. He has chosen to make his life public and therefore we are perfectly within our rights to discuss him. The fact that his private life is questionable adds wieght to our other arguements and is therefore a valid (yet admittedly minor) arguement.

Originally Posted by mrsTeegsta

whats wrong with breading white tigers come on tell me that

There's nothing wrong with breading white tigers (I find it makes the meat less dry when you deep fry it and gives a lovely golden coating)....


...sorry couldn't resist


...whats wrong with breeding them? Well, apart from the grotesque facial deformities in some, the crossed eyed nature of all and the fact they die prematurely of kidney failure....nothing!

Oh, and just for the record their is NO conservation value to the white tiger any more than there is conservation value to domestic dogs, albino squirrels or spider royals...


..in fact, spider royals are a great parallel. Originally found in the wild, defined genetic defect in all. I have no major beef with spider royals (though I would never own one) but I don't know of a single breeder who tries to claim they are doing it for 'conservation reasons'.!?



As I say, if you'd like to discuss this subject sensibly and calmly I am more than happy to discuss any of my views with you, and back them up with any evidence you request.

If howeve ryou have come here to swear and pick a fight then just don't bother.

Cheers

Andy

[KathyM]

Originally Posted by mrsTeegsta

what has it got to do with you what he does in his private life darling sweet FA thats his life i would broadcast your fella beating you and i dont agree with it thankyou very much as i have been on the reciving end of a man thanks for the reminder darling i must say and no its not nice but thats his life not urs not mine or anyone elses if he was a everyday man nobody would of know about it just like my ex walked away after broken bones black eyes and the loss of a baby its life no body can stop anybody in that time it happens and the only way it would ever stop is keeping men and woman on seperate islands

You're suggesting wife battering is natural and acceptable, that's disgusting. Having been in that situation myself and having had children in that situation, I find your stance that it's noone's business and that it's natural for men to beat women wholly abhorrent and offensive.

As for what is wrong with "breading" white tigers (your words), if you meant "breeding" then read the thread and decide for yourself as I haven't formed an opinion as yet. If however you meant what you wrote, the breadcrumbs vs batter debate is a whole other thread.

[KathyM]

As for calling us all "haters", what are you, some sort of Rikki Lake guest? God I hate that kind of language. But yes, I utterly despise wife batterers and animal abusers, so go ahead, say it again. Speak to the hand though, cos the ears aint listening aiiiiit (sorry, trying to speak in your chav language there to make it easier to understand for you).

[gazz]

Originally Posted by KathyM

Speak to the hand though, cos the ears aint listening aiiiiit (sorry, trying to speak in your chav language there to make it easier to understand for you).

I beleave (Talk to the hand)etc is American.Chav would be (Like shut up.Or i'll brick you windows.An't it).