Woman Mauled By Friend's Pet Chimp.

[Andy G]

Originally Posted by buddah

ive seen stuff like that before, i dont belive the chimps are activly after just killing things, but more that they kill over territory fights and that killing another chimps and eating it in the process may simply be just a valuble source of protien, and lets face it the crulest of all primates is us.

They do actively hunt. They do not eat other chimps but monkeys. Colobus are a favourite and the hunts are meticulously planned, with several chimps flushing the monkeys towards a cut off group. A seperate issue are chimps killed over territory disputes and this happens quite often.

[MissRosieBeau]

My first post on this fourum! And with a naught rabbit in my face.

I have seen documentaries on tv about when chimps hunt and it's like they get a blood lust and go crazy. I think they do it for added protein in their diets and all that extra protein is thought to have helped humans to evolve such large brains too.


If it was my friend being attacked I think I would try to stop the chimp myself. Maybe. Luckily I'm not so stupid to have a pet like a fully grown chimp. I have a chump but I'm going out with him! Hee hee!

[Avatarman]

here a nat geo video Video: Chimps Make and Use "Spears" to Hunt

[buddah]

Originally Posted by Andy G

They do actively hunt. They do not eat other chimps but monkeys. Colobus are a favourite and the hunts are meticulously planned, with several chimps flushing the monkeys towards a cut off group. A seperate issue are chimps killed over territory disputes and this happens quite often.

ah right not seen anything like that i supose thats just nature though, its the woman pumpin the chip with vallis thats not normal, if the chips had been given them for a long period of time and then sudenly had stoped being given them its no wonder it lost the plot

[naja-naja]

Originally Posted by sarahatpetwise

People should not even entertain keeping an animal like this. They should be banned as pets and only kept in controlled zoos in the appropriate enclosures. I'm sure everyone will agree with that.

your beginning to sound like the antis lol. and no, i wouldn't agree with that. i think that, like almost any animal can be kept by the right person and that includes chimps. there are venemous snakes kept by people on this forum that can kill, and are far more dangerous then any ape, why aren't you saying that they should be banned. there was a little girl in florida killed by a burm, are you saying they should be banned?
just because there was one unfortuate accident like this, doen't mean that the other owners are bad, you most likley will never hear of them because of their impeccable care and will therefore never make the news.

[FallenAngel]

Originally Posted by xXFooFooLaFluffXx

was the chimp put to sleep? sorry if i missed that bit......

im sorry but if i was her i wouldnt want to carry on. She cant have any quality of life, so for that i think she is very brave!

Yes the chimp was shot on side as soon as the police arrived

the sad thing chimps are kept as pets everywhere, they are brought as young cute babies, people dont realise what a full grown chimp is capable of. People always think that if they bring up chimps in a human enviroment they will act like humans because they have become "tame" not that they are still wild animals deep down.

Websites like this Pet Chimp dont help matters
the bit that disgusts me the most is the lines
"Pet chimps are amongst the best pets you can have. They are a human like companion that understands commands, can perform tricks, and knows how to express compassion and love."
it does kind of mention that you should have it in the correct housing and wear the correct protective gear though.. but it shouldnt be telling people about having chimps as pets!!!
I do understand that chimps can be kept in the correct facilties with the correct social groups but they shouldnt be classed as a pet. Its like any pet, as long as its done write and they are kept in a secure enviroment (like people keeping DWA animals) it shouldnt be banned

Sorry I did a whole report on keeping chimps as pets at uni so I am a bit opinionated on the subject

[naja-naja]

Originally Posted by FallenAngel

the sad thing chimps are kept as pets everywhere, they are brought as young cute babies, people dont realise what a full grown chimp is capable of. People always think that if they bring up chimps in a human enviroment they will act like humans because they have become "tame" not that they are still wild animals deep down.

Websites like this Pet Chimp dont help matters
the bit that disgusts me the most is the lines
"Pet chimps are amongst the best pets you can have. They are a human like companion that understands commands, can perform tricks, and knows how to express compassion and love."
it does kind of mention that you should have it in the correct housing and wear the correct protective gear though.. but it shouldnt be telling people about having chimps as pets!!!
I do understand that chimps can be kept in the correct facilties with the correct social groups but they shouldnt be classed as a pet.

Sorry I did a whole report on keeping chimps as pets at uni so I have a bit opinionated on the subject

bollocks, they are 60grand and up in the states for a young one, and they get cheaper as they get older. (i'm not taking the illegally captured ones kept in africa, the mediteranian and the middle east into consideration)

then who should tel people how to care for them, how to go about getting them, how and where to get caging food etc? self taught?

[Ash33]

Originally Posted by Andy G

They do actively hunt. They do not eat other chimps but monkeys.

Chimps have actually been known to hunt and kill other chimps. There's an Attenborough video on youtube of this one group going and raiding another group's territory, and then killing and eating one of the younger ones for no apparent reason.
They're killing machine's and shouldn't be kept as companion animals though.

[naja-naja]

if the site you mentioned doesn't help matters, how come they say this.

'Although pet chimps are great to have when they are young, they are often a very difficult animal to deal with when they are older. Many people who buy a pet chimp enjoy it while it is still a baby but once they reach adolescence they are either dumped in an area or even killed'

that is the first thing i read when i clicked your link.

[Andy G]

Nothing to do with the rights or wrongs of keeping chimps but an anecdote to highlight how dangerous they can be. In 2005 I was based in Sierra Leone with the British Army. About 5km from where we lived was a chimp santuary and the star inhabitant was an adult male chimp called 'Bruno'. To cut a long story short the chimps escaped due to a failure in the electric fence. Two Americans along with a local national were driving up to the sanctuary and were attacked by a group of the chimps, the LN was killed and one of the Americans suffered severe injuries at the hands of Bruno. This included being castrated, multiple broken bones and severe injuries to his face and hands. If an adult male Chimpanzee decides to turn on its owner, no human is a match for it and will get second prize in the fight for sure.