First APH

[animal addict]

yes things do look out of context in type :-(

[Emmaj]

Originally Posted by animal addict

yes things do look out of context in type :-(

I wasnt having a go at anyone just trying to point out well basically what i did

Tomcat is just excited about getting his hog and he was bombarded with advice that did come across as a little abrupt

[fantapants]

Originally Posted by angeldog

actually the registry sends out certificates to the breeder to give to the new owners but as you clearly sold to a shop you didnt have any new owners, also we dont agree with providing to pet shop but thats another matter

The registry sent out prefixes to give to the owners AFTER they had been sold to the pet shop (E-mail proof if needed).

Originally Posted by enola69

no but its angels business when incorrect info is given about the reg she runs!!!

No incorrect information was given, only what I was told by the registry (Once again E-mail proof if neded)

Originally Posted by animal addict

no-one is superior - no-one even suggested that - you were the one who said that you knew it all- you said that in your own words - no-one will ever know it all in any walk of life and you did say in your classifieds post that you wanted a breeding pair of APH and all I said was to please get to know the species first seeing as its people like myself who have a few non breeders because of people making mistakes with them -I've been bitten to shreds trying to re-socialise hogs -esp at the moment on the run up to xmas and recent media attention then people do need to recognise the importance of howmuch commitment these animals need

As I said in the classified quote, Tomcat did not mean to come across as arrogant, just that he knew the basics. I have been to his house, having sold exotic animals to him in the past. He has been in touch with me constantly in the last few years and we have been discussing hedgehog care recently and I have no doubt in his ability to care for any animal he has.

Originally Posted by angeldog

i was just stating a fact and you should mind your own business and maybe try and grow up a bit, not everyone posts to get in arguments, some of us only have the animals welfare at heart.
lots of animals dont belong in pet shops and hedgehogs are one of them, most of the time they dont know the first thing about them, they dont give correct info on care, they dont house them correctly, they house mixed sexes together, they sell the wrong set ups for the animal, they dont handle them.
just a few reasons

I happen to know that cheron took the baby hogs home with her to further socialise them. I have no doubt, due to our many recent e-mails,that she is completely and utterly capable of caring for and making sure they go to competent homes.

Animal addict, I saw you original post and am disgusted that your opinion of me could alter so rapidly. You know the care and dedication that I goto for my animals and that I would not let anything go to anything less than a truly reputable supplier.

What most people don't know is that I have consistently supplied my animals for a lot less than the market price, on the proviso that they goto caring, reputable homes, normally to peoples from RFUK. A few months ago people could not get rid of baby hogs for £80 each. Then a news article said they were the next biggest thing and breeders off this forum doubled their prices. For me it is not the profit but the joy, so I only sell to people that I can trust and cheron is one of them.

[spikeacus]

Coming from a person that says "he knows all there is to know" about APH's perhaps he should put all his time and energy into writing a book about his knowledge since he knows so much I think that's what has got peoples back up here, as I have been obsessed with hedgehogs [not aph's I am still new to them] for over 30 years and still I learn more and more each day, I certainly wouldnt confess to knowing all there is to know!

[Tomcat]

Originally Posted by spikeacus

Coming from a person that says "he knows all there is to know" about APH's perhaps he should put all his time and energy into writing a book about his knowledge since he knows so much I think that's what has got peoples back up here, as I have been obsessed with hedgehogs [not aph's I am still new to them] for over 30 years and still I learn more and more each day, I certainly wouldnt confess to knowing all there is to know!

I didnt say i knew all there was to know.

I said i know what i NEED to know, meaning the basics.

So glad Ali knows me

[spikeacus]

A few months ago people could not get rid of baby hogs for £80 each.

Blimey it was only a few months ago I had trouble finding any baby hogs from reputable sources and they were certainly selling for more than £80.....

[fantapants]

Originally Posted by spikeacus

Coming from a person that says "he knows all there is to know" about APH's perhaps he should put all his time and energy into writing a book about his knowledge since he knows so much I think that's what has got peoples back up here, as I have been obsessed with hedgehogs [not aph's I am still new to them] for over 30 years and still I learn more and more each day, I certainly wouldnt confess to knowing all there is to know!

as i have already said.......tomcat didnt mean to offend anybody. he simply meant that he had done his basic research and knew all of that.

when will you people get over your selves? he made a mistake with his wording!

[spikeacus]

Originally Posted by Tomcat

I didnt say i knew all there was to know.

I said i know what i NEED to know, meaning the basics.

So glad Ali knows me

Glad you at least know the basics then and will make sure that you dont breed her too soon or too late then, and that all the lineages will be checked throughly and are registered from reputable breeders.

Personally for me, before I brought mine, knowing the 'basics' wasnt enough....

[fantapants]

Originally Posted by spikeacus

Blimey it was only a few months ago I had trouble finding any baby hogs from reputable sources and they were certainly selling for more than £80.....

do a search sweety, i can think of three breeders that were advertising their babies for "£80 or offers" befoe the news article.

[Emmaj]

Originally Posted by spikeacus

Coming from a person that says "he knows all there is to know" about APH's perhaps he should put all his time and energy into writing a book about his knowledge since he knows so much I think that's what has got peoples back up here, as I have been obsessed with hedgehogs [not aph's I am still new to them] for over 30 years and still I learn more and more each day, I certainly wouldnt confess to knowing all there is to know!

The original poster was excited about his new hog just as every other person who owns hogs was when they got their first

i dont think tom is that old so give him a break hey

people say they want to do and try things its no crime.........he will ask people when the time comes and as time goes by advice should he need to


i know everyone is wanting the best for the hedgie but if you keep pushing you will push him away and then never know how he or the hedgie is getting on