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At five weeks this animal is barely eating on its own...call rspca as they can report as council gives licences...better still get a shot gun and give both barrels to the shop owner....then squease him or her into a rabbit hutch...this needs stamped out...so cruel...who the hell gave it to the shop in the first place as they need shot as well....this wee thing may die if something isnt done..they will sell to someone with no knoledge whatsoever and that will damage it to no ammends...this type of behaviour makes me sick....the sooner they are all article 10 the better it gives true keepers of the species a bad name as all seem to get categorised together...do something quick mate to help it before its too late...find out where it came from and report that as well..you should take pics and post them so as to boycot the shop...wish i stayed closer as id do summit...
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At five weeks this animal is barely eating on its own...call rspca as they can report as council gives licences...better still get a shot gun and give both barrels to the shop owner....then squease him or her into a rabbit hutch...this needs stamped out...so cruel...who the hell gave it to the shop in the first place as they need shot as well....this wee thing may die if something isnt done..they will sell to someone with no knoledge whatsoever and that will damage it to no ammends...this type of behaviour makes me sick....the sooner they are all article 10 the better it gives true keepers of the species a bad name as all seem to get categorised together...do something quick mate to help it before its too late...find out where it came from and report that as well..you should take pics and post them so as to boycot the shop...wish i stayed closer as id do summit...
someone has already posted in the shop keepers defence sayin the shop keeper actually bred the baby....

Brit, did you not challenge the shop keeper about it?

wigan - if someone has been keepin something 18 months then theyre not "new" to them. 18 months is by far long enough to get to know the species well and learn about its needs. he may have brought it to the shop to feed it, but surely he should know a busy environment such as a shop would be stessful for any baby animal? thats just common sense, not even marmoset specific!
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If it was there to be fed why ask £1000 for it...why is it on veiw and why not in an incubator...you may have in your opinion think that 18mnts is long enough to get to know the species...they can be kept in the wrong manner with the wrong diet and not any required supliments and survive in a poor state for quite a long time.,.so sorry have to disagree with that statement..have seen one at our exotic vets that was 5yrs..had no supliments not proper diet and the animal was slowly dieing...they are not that easy to keep especialy if you dont know....he should be reported for what he is doing..
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plenty people do keep them singular this may not be the ideal but at least the animal gets all the love and attention,i think i did make it clear that the guy was selling them privately and only when fully weaned as i said if you had asked him personally you might of left feeling more happy than you did as for selling them in moreton what is wrong with that.
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as stated they were being sold privately and all potetial buyers were given a list of the animals requirements diet/housing/vitamins uv and heating food was brought in via america through a company called ravensden from what i can see he as tried his best to fulfill all requirements but you cannot please everyone
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If it was there to be fed why ask £1000 for it...why is it on veiw and why not in an incubator...you may have in your opinion think that 18mnts is long enough to get to know the species...they can be kept in the wrong manner with the wrong diet and not any required supliments and survive in a poor state for quite a long time.,.so sorry have to disagree with that statement..have seen one at our exotic vets that was 5yrs..had no supliments not proper diet and the animal was slowly dieing...they are not that easy to keep especialy if you dont know....he should be reported for what he is doing..

what i mean is 18 months is long enough to get to know the species and its requirements in detail, if you put the effort into researching it....and i wasnt the one who said it was there to be fed.........i said someone else said thats why it was there
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as stated they were being sold privately and all potetial buyers were given a list of the animals requirements diet/housing/vitamins uv and heating food was brought in via america through a company called ravensden from what i can see he as tried his best to fulfill all requirements but you cannot please everyone

the thing is though, if that monkey is on display in a hamster cage, and customers see it, but dont ask about it, they may assume that its acceptable to house a monkey like that, therefore may go off, get one from someone else n house it like that. it certainly shouldnt be on full view no matter what the reason is for it bein there
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You cannot get any idea how to keep marmies from a pamflet from a pet shop no matter what information they give you...buying food from the states why,,,might i ask..it gets distributed in the uk...and no you wouldnt get the general idea in 18mnts...15yrs ive got and still learning..with regard to them being kept singular and getting love and attention...dogs cats hamsters etc maybe but never a monkey...its totally against the grain...never keep on their own...never...we dont even do it ...give someone life in prison and they even get their own kind to keep them company...it really great how people can have an opinion...which all are entitled too.but shouting the odds about something they know nothing about is what encourages people like this to do what they do....why not source a breeder whos looking for new bloodlines or something....petshops are for pets...monkeys are not pets and never will be.this is why more and more are becoming threatened...even the common marmoset is going the same way...this country is becoming more and more like the states everyday...maybe next one will have its teath pulled and dressed in silly clothes so as to make it appealing to the public to spend their money and through ignorance kill or harm the poor animal...
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The owner was only briefly in the shop when I was in Cat - after I had pushed through the several groups of chavs and kids who were poking the poor little thing, he had "gone out" and left his son in charge.

If this truly was a young primate in need of 24/7 care to hand rear it due to rejection/loss of a sibling or parent etc then WHY oh why would you display him/her in a shop next door to a busy pub, a shop that has a B&G macaw and a cockatoo and usually several other large parrot species making a hell of a racket, budgies/cockatiels etc chirping all day - that in itself is enough to deal with let alone all the prodding and faces squished up to his hamster cage

I wholly agree that primates should be heavily licensed to keep the serious "KEEPER" and the hobbyist separate - I do not and never will beleive that primates can be a hobby animal

( and am not saying reptile keepers arent serious before anyone thinks that - just that primates are specialist and deserve the licensing to protect them properly from pet shops and such like )
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Nice answer someone with a true heart for animals...well done and good on yea
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