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Fair point made;

In my humble opinion dressing up animals is "bloody stupid" (i could happily use the phase's moronic or ridiculous), and i think that its highly amusing my intellegence gets brought in to it, bravo

There are many bloody stupid/ moronic and ridiculous reasons why people dress animals up, that is a point i completely agree with you on.

I do accept however that some animals do benefit from some items of clothing for medical reasons, and occasionally for enduring more formidable conditions.

I don't know where you got "leave it in the wild" from......... i'm a zoo keeper so would be a little hypocritical of me. When i say "Treat it like its suposed to be treated" i mean provide adequate housing, provide adequate diet and provide adequate enrichment.

Yeah i do have A pet, just one - my dog, however i own 60 odd snakes, lizards, amphibians, invertebrates, birds of prey and exotic mammals, these are not pets, these are animals i have the pleasure of working with and caring for. I provide them with what they require, they are animals, not toys.

I cant help but feel saying that i need to grow up because i think dressing up animals is bloody stupid is a tad ironic!

Animals aren't a hobby for me, they are my whole life, i care for them at work, i extensively research them professionally, i have been keeping privately for 15 years and i have an envi sci degree for which i did my dissertation on invertebrates.

And in my professional opinion

Dressing up animals for personal pleasure, is stupid

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Old 05-09-2010, 01:44 PM
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Fair point made;

In my humble opinion dressing up animals is "bloody stupid" (i could happily use the phase's moronic or ridiculous), and i think that its highly amusing my intellegence gets brought in to it, bravo

There are many bloody stupid/ moronic and ridiculous reasons why people dress animals up, that is a point i completely agree with you on.

I do accept however that some animals do benefit from some items of clothing for medical reasons, and occasionally for enduring more formidable conditions.

I don't know where you got "leave it in the wild" from......... i'm a zoo keeper so would be a little hypocritical of me. When i say "Treat it like its suposed to be treated" i mean provide adequate housing, provide adequate diet and provide adequate enrichment.

Yeah i do have A pet, just one - my dog, however i own 60 odd snakes, lizards, amphibians, invertebrates, birds of prey and exotic mammals, these are not pets, these are animals i have the pleasure of working with and caring for. I provide them with what they require, they are animals, not toys.

I cant help but feel saying that i need to grow up because i think dressing up animals is bloody stupid is a tad ironic!

Animals aren't a hobby for me, they are my whole life, i care for them at work, i extensively research them professionally, i have been keeping privately for 15 years and i have an envi sci degree for which i did my dissertation on invertebrates.

And in my professional opinion

Dressing up animals for personal pleasure, is stupid

Couldn't agree more, when buying (or however else they are acquired), you take on a sole responsibilty to provide the best care possible for these animals. I keep marmosets.....does it mean i dress them up in clothes for some ' light-hearted' fun?

Forgive me if I am being stupid but 'light-hearted' fun for who may i ask? because i think if i left a small dress in my marmosets enclosure.....im quite sure i wouldnt return to my male walking around in it with his high heels on.......
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You're still keeping animals for your own selfish pleasure....

same concept. Think about it.
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You're still keeping animals for your own selfish pleasure....

same concept. Think about it.
this is true, I dress my dog up in the winter in cute fun clothes rather than functional jackets because I CHOOSE TO.

It is not cruel, just a bit silly. But then people on here act like god and think they are as pure as snow and never do anything wrong.
So its no wonder people are so quick to judge.
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Love the two points made in the posts above!!!
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You're still keeping animals for your own selfish pleasure....

same concept. Think about it.
Selfish pleasure? Same concept? Think about it?

Thinking about animals and there welfare is what i am employed to do.......

There is nothing selfish about my motives for owning animals, just passion and thirst for knowledge.

By the sounds of it, your reasons for having animals in captivity and mine are obviously polar opposite

At least you can admit that in your opinion, keeping animals in this manner is selfish, i whole heartedly agree with you.

I guess you and I represent the difference between "pet owners" and herpetoculturists, which is fine, it takes al-sorts in a word.

We obviously are both perfectly entitled to our different opinions, and it is always interesting if nothing else to speak to people whose opinions differs from your own.

However i feel possibly in time, with working more animal species and gaining a better understanding of natural behavior and how this can be encouraged in captivity, you may be able to see where i am coming from in years to come.
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. I keep marmosets.....does it mean i dress them up in clothes for some ' light-hearted' fun?

Forgive me if I am being stupid but 'light-hearted' fun for who may i ask?
I believe this is the "selfish pleasure" that has been spoken of, and i would say your not falling foul of it

Allot of people seem to think anthropomorphism is normal and acceptable, and perhaps it is?

Just doesn't seem right to me, if i am the minority on this then i think that speaks volumes in itself

But hey, its all good
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Saw similar to this on tv. Was a programme about thailand and the street sellers would drug the animals to make them sit still for photos. Its pretty sickening.
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Forgive me if I am being stupid but 'light-hearted' fun for who may i ask? because i think if i left a small dress in my marmosets enclosure.....im quite sure i wouldnt return to my male walking around in it with his high heels on.......

no shit batman... not unless he's Jesus of the monkey world and can turn a dress into shoes.
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