marmoset

[TSKA Rory Matier]

I think its fair to say Phil, and l do not wish for yet another thread to go off topic.

That not everyone would wish to use a broker, it is each individual persons choice not coerced choice, but voluntary choice to either use the brokerage or not.

We do not specifically approach anyone, but we are approached by others for all sorts of issues. I do not approach zoos, l have no direct contact with British zoos. I do have a lot of contact with European zoos, but again they approach me, not vice versa.

I do not approach shops, some approach me with a view to supply and l do not, or alternatively we do have clients that work within that environment that use our service.

I do not go hunting specifically for new clients, they do seek us out.

I do not pester my existing clients, for if they have a surplus they usually call me.

So l do not coerce sales from anyone one buyer nor surplus from anyone seller.

Okay, primate experience, no, l do not own primates, nor have any wish to.

I did state in my original response directly after Marie for the OP to learn from other keepers of primates.

When l work with a client 50% of the information comes from them, and 50% l have learned from other clients over the years. I do have a primatologist client on board and he is a valued friend, colleague and business associate and he offers a great deal of information.

My job is simple if you wish to stretch it, l find the right residencies for animals, and l find the right ownership for said animals.

TSKA place on board a 25% admin fee/commission on all non clients, and between an 8% - 15% admin fee/commission on all existing clients of TSKA.

Whether Squirrel Monkeys or Marmosets are harmless is to me irrelevant at present if we talk of the politics - for all primates should be under some kind of regulation licence or registration.

This way we, not TSKA, but we as keepers would be able to see the animals [primates] in the right conditions and set ups, under the right ownership, husbandry the works.

Phil, with your twelve years as a primate keeper, you are only or should only be too well aware of the politics that could very well affect your ability to keep primates in the future.

It is all the responsibility of primate keepers to ensure that they do whatever possible to ensure that the novice keepers and even existing keepers are treated the same way, but above everything to make damn sure that the primates are seen under the best light of the political regime that is trying to deter the keeping of this species in private hands.

I wonder - do you speak out as loudly in political terms for your rights as a primate keeper to keep as you do in the slamming of my business in the efforts to try and ensure that primates are in the right ownership?

If you do then well done, for so many primate keepers have lost their political voice and are now too fearful to show their political rights above the parapet for fear of them being blown off by the anti primate keeping groups. If you do not, then you should.

I do not expect people, keepers to like brokers....consultants, whatever you wish to term us/me, but we are needed. And when l started TSKA from Piedipers Ark it was much needed then, and if keepers did not like the service they would not use us end of day.

R

[phil the drill]

thanks glider girl thats my point hands on experieince you cant beat that never mind a go between thats why i have a phone so i can speak to directly and ask as many questions as you like about the animal

[Snakes r grreat]

This is the second time tonight i have had to edit this thread, i hope i dont have to again! Please leave this thread clear for the purposes that the OP opened it, which was not to debate the in's and outs of who is killing the hobby etc etc etc.

Thank You

[phil the drill]

mod then delete it all the truth is theres been no bad language its a diffrence of opinion and standing up to whats right it wos sorted out what happened to free speech delete my posts and rorys thank you

[annewynne]

well to thank everyone for the information,i think going to a breeder directly is my best option,can find out a lot more then,i understand people have there opinions-including me,meeting a breeder will give me a greater understanding about marmosets and find out first hand all the pros and cons,reading a book and care guides is easy.

[TSKA Rory Matier]

Phil,

I have pm'd you.

regards Rory

[glidergirl]

Good on you annewynne.

[TSKA Rory Matier]

Originally Posted by annewynne

well to thank everyone for the information,i think going to a breeder directly is my best option,can find out a lot more then,i understand people have there opinions-including me,meeting a breeder will give me a greater understanding about marmosets and find out first hand all the pros and cons,reading a book and care guides is easy.

Good choice

R

[the keeper]

hi and thanks for all the posts its my wife who is after (a) monkey now its monkeys i my self don't like seeing any animal alone now what is the smallest cage two can be housed in thanks ps they will be in the house

[Esarosa]

The idea is you can't keep them happily in a cage. They need a large outside aviary if you will, as big as you can manage. And a heated area,maybe a shed? or an access into the house but in a safe area if that was possible?

Has to be fiddle proof as i'd call it as they can get into almost anything apparently.

The best person to talk to would be glidergirl I think. If you pm her i'm sure she'll be able to help more than we can