Could a lizard eat a commen froglet?

[joeyboy]

Originally Posted by teiryklav

many in my country feed frogs to snakes. some have no problem, but some do get the snake died. it's up to you to take the risk. i know that some frog have some defense mechanism, and that might be dangerous. if the snake won't eat pinkies or mice, try live lizard first. still wont? try the frog but there's always the risk of that

you'll get burnt at the stack for suggesting using anoles(lizards) as livefood here. It's done a lot in America but we're more conservative for some reason.

[Paulusworm]

Originally Posted by joeyboy

you'll get burnt at the stack for suggesting using anoles(lizards) as livefood here. It's done a lot in America but we're more conservative for some reason.

I read about using those and must admit that I was looking at them in the rep store the other day. I don't know if I could do it though cos I like Anoles . I posted a thread in the lizard section asking for unwanted eggs a few days ago. Just thinking that if I can gradually wean her over on to pinkies/fluffs then it'll be worthwhile and they won't have died in vain.

[Ron Magpie]

An old vivarist's trick is to rub a live lizard over a pinky to impart the smell- the major advantage (to the lizard) is that if it's done gently enough, it gets to STAY alive, and to you, that gradually the snake will get used to pinkies. Think about it.

[C.Bruno]

Originally Posted by Frilled13

i never knew common frogs were endangered.

me neither!

[Paulusworm]

I just read that they are covered by the Wildlife and thingy stuff Act 1981.

[Ron Magpie]

Originally Posted by C.Bruno

me neither!

Then you both need to keep up with the news- there has been a widespread die-off of resident populations- sometimes attributed to climate change, sometimes to a bacterial or fungal disease. In either case, frogs are not breeding to previous levels.

[Grond]

Originally Posted by Paulusworm

. If I got hold of some frog spawn from a friends garden pond and reared the tadpoles/froglets/frogs up to a suitable size

Where are you going to get frogspawn from at this time of year? They won't breed again til next March!

Originally Posted by joeyboy

you'll get burnt at the stack for suggesting using anoles(lizards) as livefood here. It's done a lot in America but we're more conservative for some reason.

There's no difference in breeding anoles for food to breeding mice. It's just peoples perception!

Originally Posted by Ron Magpie

Then you both need to keep up with the news- there has been a widespread die-off of resident populations- sometimes attributed to climate change, sometimes to a bacterial or fungal disease. In either case, frogs are not breeding to previous levels.

Whilst this is true, they are still not 'endangered'! They are however protected by the bill mentioned above!

Grass snakes eat a lot of common frogs without ill effect, but personally I wouldn't recommend feeding any WC prey to your snakes due to the toxin/parasite risk.

[Paulusworm]

Originally Posted by Grond

Where are you going to get frogspawn from at this time of year? They won't breed again til next March!

Yes, I know that. She is a force feeder at the moment. What I am doing is called "planning ahead".

Originally Posted by Grond

There's no difference in breeding anoles for food to breeding mice. It's just peoples perception!

Hence the reason why I stated that I'm not sure if I could because I like Anoles.

Originally Posted by Grond

Whilst this is true, they are still not 'endangered'! They are however protected by the bill mentioned above!

Grass snakes eat a lot of common frogs without ill effect, but personally I wouldn't recommend feeding any WC prey to your snakes due to the toxin/parasite risk.

But they very probably soon will be endangered due to the health problems that the current frog population is facing. I think I read somewhere about an illness called "red leg". Again as I stated I will not be feeding wc prey items. The snake in question is wc not the prey items which are being fed to her.

What's with all the exclaimation marks? Comes across as a little stroppy to be honest.

[Grond]

Originally Posted by Paulusworm

What's with all the exclaimation marks? Comes across as a little stroppy to be honest.

I find it highly amusing that you think exclamation marks are stroppy!!!!

No stroppyness intended, I was just passing on information!

[Paulusworm]

In that case I apologise Grond . Exclaimation marks, Caps lock and / smileys seem to be the weapons of choice for flamers/pitchfork types on here.

I've been up to my local today looking at setting up an Anole colony to supply feeders for her. We've got a 5 drawer, skinny chest of drawers that will convert to a nice arboreal viv for them so hopefully problem solved. I'm on the lookout for an old butler sink or something that I can sink into the flowerbed so the native amphibian wildlife has somewhere to hang out.