Go Back   Reptile Forums > Help and Chat > Feeder



  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2009, 08:43 PM
Saedcantas's Avatar
RFUK Premium Membership
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Somewhere Amazing!!!
Posts: 5,914
Reviews: 13
Default Livefoods Careguides:- Black crix, "Silent" crix, Dubia and Blaberus roaches

Jamaican Field Crickets - Gryllus assimilis.
Also known commonly as “Silent” Crickets.

Pros and Cons:-
+This species of cricket are more resistant to higher humidity than Black crickets.
+They can therefore be maintained at much higher densities than Black crickets.
+Their bodies when dead in the colony tend to dry, causing less of a rise in humidity and ammonia.
-They do need to be kept at slightly warmer than room temperature.
-They are less productive then Black crickets if your demand is for hatchlings or smaller sizes.
-They do not gut load as well as Black crickets which take on a larger amount of gut content on average.

Temperature and Humidity:-
Jamaican field crickets do best kept at a constant of between 25-30C.
Higher temps speed up the life cycle and can be used to time hatchings more efficiently. Eggs of this species kept at 30C hatch within 11days, fairly consistently and the nymphs are most successful maintained at 30C for the first 3 weeks before a drop to 25C slows the development to longer lived rate.
At these temperatures this species will reach adulthood in 6-7 weeks.

Humidity with crickets is a serious concern, while these insects need humidity in order to shed properly, even with raised temperatures, the average humidity in any building in the UK is sufficient. No additional humidity needs to be provided.
In fact, any rise in base level humidity can cause mass die offs in cricket colonies, it is very important not to allow moisture to gather in the containers or to allow moist foods in contact with the floor (where they will rapidly raise local humidity and also cause moulds/fungus).
Containers for crickets must be well ventilated and dry. This will affect which foods you may choose to use.

Foods:-
While there are many options out there and many people seem to have success with other foods, this outlines the foods I have used successfully for 2 years with a medium scale breeding project.

Hatchling nymphs - 3 weeks old;
Fresh foods used are Orange “ends” (shallow slivers, the nymphs will drown easily otherwise), Potato and Carrot slices. The food should be offered to smaller crickets under layers of card, not on the floor or exposed on the top of the colony.
These foods while fresh will provide enough water for the crickets, if the fresh foods used are changed daily or every other day (which is necessary for higher density colonies anyway) there is no need to provide any additional water e.g: crystals, gel etc.

Dried foods are only limited by your ability to find something dry that contains 25% protein only. Dog biscuits are usually 25% and higher quality Primate “leaf eater” pellets too.
For this age range of nymphs the pellets can be blended down or crushed into a powder and scattered in small amounts in the container, you should add enough to feed them for only a day or two at a time, any more and you end up with a film of mould instead

3wks nymphs - Adults;
Fresh foods can be slices of Orange, Potato and Carrot. Once the crickets are larger and more inclined to feed in the open, the food should be placed on the top of the colony, covered food encourages flies by the million…
Although some people offer greens also, the container will need the card replaced more often as this tends to cause the crickets to do rather wet poo everywhere!
Other foods are tempting to use, but experimentation quickly reveals that many go “soggy” in the container ruining the card while the above 3 all dry leaving no mess. Certainly avoid any soft fruits whatsoever (Papaya, tomato etc are just a disaster…)

Dried foods can simply be whole pellets of the same type as for the smaller nymphs, again 25% protein is important. Again, although many use bran, rolled oats or similar as the dry base food, it is fairly void and is very problematic to keep clean and dry, also encouraging mould, fungus and flour mites.

General maintenance:-
Depending upon how many crickets you’re keeping, the size of your containers and how fast you are using them, you may want to “changeover” your containers on a weekly basis. If you begin to suffer die offs, the remainder need to be separated from the dirty container ASAP.
At this point you are removing any dead bodies, any missed food that has fallen to the bottom of the container and keeping an eye out for nasties like “buffalo worm” Dermestid beetle larvae.

Ideally you need a second identical container to transfer the crickets to, before you begin the task the second container must be furnished with card (even a brief exposure to high humidity in an empty plastic tub is a death sentence for crickets as you’ll see in the pics later!).
Simply shake all of the crickets off the card or tubes you are using, once you have a tub full of crickets, dead crickets, old food, half eaten pellets and frass (cricket poo and bits and bobs), you can tip the container gently to allow all of the active crickets to run off into the new tub. You can hand filter the stragglers as the live crickets will grip your hands or a latex glove while buffalo worms and dead crix fall through

Buffalo Worm:-
Dermestid beetle larvae are commonly called buffalo worms, fuzzies or “caterpillars”.
They are potentially harmful to your colony and are not a “clean up crew” both the larvae and adult beetles can decimate entire containers of smaller cricket nymphs, they will prey on crickets during shedding or any weakened crickets. They also enjoy eating their way through your nesting boxes…

Breeding:-
Female Jamaican crickets are easily distinguished from medium size (or 5th instar). Females have a long ovipositor almost the length of their body sticking out of their rear, even sub adult females have a partially developed ovipositor visible.
Females of this species lay around ~400 eggs.

It’s literally as simple as get a container, throw a load of adult crickets in, they will mate and the females will swell obviously with eggs and begin searching for suitable laying sites. If you find females trying to lay in or under the food fresh foods, you know immediately there is something wrong with the nesting areas provided.

A suitable nesting tub should be around 3” deep, filled with 2.5” of *Organic pesticide free* compost, this needs to be slightly compacted (if it is “fluffy” the females won’t like it!) and well moistened, you should be able to feel the coolness of the humidity in the tub with the back of your hand. It should remain moistened (by pouring a small amount of water on every few days or so) throughout laying and for the first 2 weeks of the hatching process.

You will have much greater hatchling success if you move the nesting box out to a separate container during your weekly changeover and add a fresh box in with the adults. Also, 1/2cm wire mesh cut to cover the surface of your nest boxes will prevent spent females and males climbing in and eating the eggs.
Nest boxes can be allowed to dry out and then discarded from the hatching containers after 3 weeks.


Most people will be keeping their crickets on this kind of scale, but the principles still apply;


On a much larger scale, this is on day one of hatching;


7 days into hatching;


Weeks 5-6 mediums to sub adults;


Adults tub showing nesting boxes;



All Images and Text Copyright © Charlotte Goble 2009
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2009, 08:48 PM
Saedcantas's Avatar
RFUK Premium Membership
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Somewhere Amazing!!!
Posts: 5,914
Reviews: 13
Default

Black Crickets - Gryllus bimaculatus.

Pros and Cons:-
+This species are a “meatier“ bite than other available species and gut load much better.
+They are he most productive species available for those in need of large numbers of pinheads and small nymphs.
-Colonies of black crickets can rapidly spiral into die offs if humidity rises in your containers for even an hour.
-Therefore they have to be carefully managed for density and have to be kept more sparsely than other species.
-Dead crickets of this species tend to turn to mush and cause big problems with humidity and ammonia.
-These crickets do best kept at quite high temps compared to room temperature.

Temperature and Humidity:-
Hatchling nymphs up to small/medium (3rd/4th instar) size must be kept cooler than adults at only 25C, high hatching densities coupled with a natural grouping up behaviour means any higher and you can find whole batches wiped out by self generated humidity (sweating!). At this temperature eggs of this species take between 11-14 days to hatch.
This species can prove difficult to raise past 3rd-4th instar in some cases, this seems to be humidity, temperature and density based.
Small/medium nymphs of this species onwards are most successful at 30C. At these temperatures this species also takes 6-7 weeks to reach adulthood.

Humidity with crickets is a serious concern, while these insects need humidity in order to shed properly, even with raised temperatures, the average humidity in any building in the UK is sufficient. No additional humidity needs to be provided.
In fact, any rise in base level humidity can cause mass die offs in cricket colonies, it is very important not to allow moisture to gather in the containers or to allow moist foods in contact with the floor (where they will rapidly raise local humidity and also cause moulds/fungus).
Containers for crickets must be well ventilated and dry. This will affect which foods you may choose to use.

Foods:-
While there are many options out there and many people seem to have success with other foods, this outlines the foods I have used successfully for 2 years with a medium scale breeding project.

Hatchling nymphs - 3 weeks old;
Fresh foods used are only Potato and Carrot slices, Nymphs of this species are so susceptible to death by humidity that even Orange “ends” just collect a pile of dead bodies. The food should be offered to smaller crickets under layers of card, not on the floor or exposed on the top of the colony.
These foods while fresh will provide enough water for the crickets, if the fresh foods used are changed daily or every other day (which is necessary for higher density colonies anyway) there is no need to provide any additional water e.g: crystals, gel etc.

Dried foods are only limited by your ability to find something dry that contains 30% protein only. Cat biscuits are your best source of good quality 30% protein.
For this age range of nymphs the pellets can be blended down or crushed into a powder and scattered in small amounts in the container, you should add enough to feed them for only a day or two at a time, any more and you end up with a film of mould instead

3wks nymphs - Adults;
Fresh foods can be slices of Orange (ends for smaller nymphs), Potato and Carrot. Once the crickets are larger and more inclined to feed in the open, the food should be placed on the top of the colony, covered food encourages flies by the million…
Although some people offer greens also, the container will need the card replaced more often as this tends to cause the crickets to do rather wet poo everywhere!
Other foods are tempting to use, but experimentation quickly reveals that many go “soggy” in the container ruining the card while the above 3 all dry leaving no mess. Certainly avoid any soft fruits whatsoever (Papaya, tomato etc are just a disaster…)

Dried foods can simply be whole pellets of the same type as for the smaller nymphs, again 30% protein is important. Although many use bran, rolled oats or similar as the dry base food, it is fairly void and is very problematic to keep clean and dry, also encouraging mould, fungus and flour mites.

General maintenance:-
Depending upon how many crickets you’re keeping, the size of your containers and how fast you are using them, you may want to “changeover” your containers on a weekly basis. If you begin to suffer die offs, the remainder need to be separated from the dirty container ASAP.
At this point you are removing any dead bodies, any missed food that has fallen to the bottom of the container and keeping an eye out for nasties like “buffalo worm” Dermestid beetle larvae.

Ideally you need a second identical container to transfer the crickets to, before you begin the task the second container must be furnished with card (even a brief exposure to high humidity in an empty plastic tub is a death sentence for crickets as you’ll see in the pics later!).
Simply shake all of the crickets off the card or tubes you are using, once you have a tub full of crickets, dead crickets, old food, half eaten pellets and frass (cricket poo and bits and bobs), you can tip the container gently to allow all of the active crickets to run off into the new tub. You can hand filter the stragglers as the live crickets will grip your hands or a latex glove while buffalo worms and dead crix fall through

Buffalo Worm:-
Dermestid beetle larvae are commonly called buffalo worms, fuzzies or “caterpillars”.
They are potentially harmful to your colony and are not a “clean up crew” both the larvae and adult beetles can decimate entire containers of smaller cricket nymphs, they will prey on crickets during shedding or any weakened crickets. They also enjoy eating their way through your nesting boxes…

Breeding:-
Female black crickets are easily distinguished from sub adult size. Females have a long ovipositor almost the length of their body sticking out of their rear, even sub adult females have a partially developed ovipositor visible.
Females of this species lay around ~1500 eggs!!!

It’s literally as simple as get a container, throw a load of adult crickets in, they will mate and the females will swell obviously with eggs and begin searching for suitable laying sites. If you find females trying to lay in or under the food fresh foods, you know immediately there is something wrong with the nesting areas provided.

A suitable nesting tub should be around 3” deep, filled with 2.5” of *Organic pesticide free* compost, this needs to be slightly compacted (if it is “fluffy” the females won’t like it!) and well moistened, you should be able to feel the coolness of the humidity in the tub with the back of your hand. It should remain moistened (by pouring a small amount of water on every few days or so) throughout laying and for the first 2 weeks of the hatching process.

You will have much greater hatchling success if you move the nesting box out to a separate container during your weekly changeover and add a fresh box in with the adults. Also, 1/2cm wire mesh cut to cover the surface of your nest boxes will prevent spent females and males climbing in and eating the eggs.
Nest boxes can be allowed to dry out and then discarded from the hatching containers after 3 weeks.


The first picture is a hatching tub on the first day of hatching. There’s an obvious error! When re-moistening nest boxes always allow the water to fully soak in before replacing the card on top (needed to help hatchling climb out or reach lower humidity away from the substrate), otherwise it get’s totally ruined…


Small to medium black crickets;


Medium black crickets;


Adult black crickets all hiding because I scared them!


The dangers of high humidity can’t be stressed enough, my colleague made the mistake of emptying an entire tub of adult blacks into a feeding tub for use later, 30 minutes later 10 were left alive…


The remainder had to be discarded too as these insects simply cannot recover from humidity stress.


All Images and Text Copyright © Charlotte Goble 2009
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2009, 08:51 PM
Saedcantas's Avatar
RFUK Premium Membership
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Somewhere Amazing!!!
Posts: 5,914
Reviews: 13
Default

Dubia Roaches - Blaptica dubia.
The actual feeding and maintenance applies to feeder sps. of Blaberus (craniifer, discoidalis etc).

Pros and Cons:-
+Dubia roaches are one of, if not the, easiest roaches to culture and feed with.
+They are livebearers and therefore breeding is a self contained no fuss process.
+They require very little care or maintenance.
+These roaches are relatively slow, terrible at climbing, don’t jump or fly (except a poor sputter or two).
-Dubias are generally a good sized meal for many reptiles, Blaberus species might be preferred for reptiles in need of larger foods however.
-They are very slow to culture in comparison to other available species, but once started are no problem.
-These roaches do best kept at quite high temps compared to room temperature.

Temperature and Humidity:-
These breed and thrive best at ~30C or even as high as 32C. And again, don’t need any additional humidity unless you experience losses from shedding issues. While humidity isn’t a threat to these roaches as it is for crickets, it will encourage mould, fungus and bad smells.

Foods:-
Fresh foods are slices of apple, orange, carrot, potato and leafy greens. Dried pelleted foods should be 30% protein for greatest productivity for your colony.
The container is best bare bottomed with only dried pellets on it, fresh foods should be offered on top of egg crate to prevent raising the humidity. As with the other care guides, the food I’ve chosen is based on cleanliness, most other foods will go soggy and encourage flies.

General maintenance:-
Around every 6 months you may want to filter the colony into a clean container and clear out the frass, bodies etc at the bottom.
A weekly check for dead bodies and missed food is a good idea.
A brilliant guide to separating sizes can be found here;
http://www.theroachguy.com/caresheet.htm

Breeding:-
No effort necessary! Just keep your colony well fed with plenty of protein, good high temps and feed out the males to try and reach a 1:7 ratio of males to females. Females produce ootheca which they carry in a pouch in the abdomen until they are ready to hatch, you’ll often find females looking guilty before running off and revealing a new bunch of up to 30 babies.
Discarded ootheca will not hatch and can just be binned or left as additional food for others.


A small scale colony;


A colony of thousands only needs this much space and this much food every other day;




And Blaberus roaches kept much the same way but with a bark chip substrate;



All Images and Text Copyright © Charlotte Goble 2009
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-01-2009, 09:07 PM
HadesDragons's Avatar
Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chester, Northwest UK
Posts: 9,586
Reviews: 29
Send a message via MSN to HadesDragons
Default

Really nice guide! Stickied
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-01-2009, 02:44 AM
Oliver Dodds's Avatar
Ultra Citizen
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Jersey, Channel Islands
Posts: 1,424
Default

Bloody fantastic guide, thanks Lotte!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-01-2009, 05:02 PM
Egg
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1
Default

I was looking for the scientific names of the two species of cricket, and see what I found! Very, very useful.
Thanks, Charlotte!
Tommaso
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-01-2009, 10:24 PM
spend_day's Avatar
Premier Citizen
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: King's Lynn, Norfolk
Posts: 3,223
Default

wanna do one for locusts lotte

ace care info btw
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-01-2009, 10:26 PM
Gold Star Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Midlands
Posts: 6,701
Send a message via MSN to LoveForLizards
Default

Sneaky edit spend_day? !
__________________
6x Birds of Prey, 3x Cats, 4x Rabbits, 4x Ferrets, 2x Turtles, 1x Corn Snake, 1x Chile Rose Tarantula, 1x Mexican Red Knee Tarantula, 1x AG Parrot, 2x Degus, 5x Chinchillas
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-01-2009, 11:32 PM
Saedcantas's Avatar
RFUK Premium Membership
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Somewhere Amazing!!!
Posts: 5,914
Reviews: 13
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomma View Post
I was looking for the scientific names of the two species of cricket, and see what I found! Very, very useful.
Thanks, Charlotte!
Tommaso
Stalking me hey! Glad you all found it useful

Does it match up to your notes Tom!?!

I'm still working on guides for;
Eudicella & Pachnoda Fruit Beetles,
Springtails,
Trichorina tropical woodlice,
Worms! Dendrobaena and garden,
Bean weevils,
and various drosophila sp.

Thanks again
Lotte***
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 20-01-2009, 11:06 AM
Alex M's Avatar
Ultra Citizen
Join Date: May 2008
Location: DORSET
Posts: 1,747
Default

Great caresheets Lotte

I actually find the dubia roaches fascinating to keep in ther own right, and essential, given the number of species i keep!

Al
__________________



At last... After years of atrocities, crimes against humanity and the appalling treatment of millions, it's over. Westlife have split up.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Black and Brown Crix together? excession Feeder 4 14-07-2009 08:47 PM
Breeding roaches/crix/locusts? jack_rep Feeder 6 12-01-2009 09:45 PM
brown/black crix and grey crix. jbaines Lizards 3 26-09-2008 01:21 AM
Gecko's and black crix Incubuss Lizards 12 14-09-2007 11:47 AM
Black Vs. Brown crix Lofty Feeder 16 05-04-2006 09:10 PM


Help For Heros

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:41 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright © 2005 - 2011, Reptile Forums (RFUK™)
Privacy Policy