Killing Feeder Anoles Humanely?

[Paulusworm]

Originally Posted by benjo

or sell them? ;o

The excess ones? Possibly. The corner of the lounge does look like a 6'x3'x3' arboreal viv would fit though. How many would fit in that?

[Jim2109]

Originally Posted by Paulusworm

The excess ones? Possibly. The corner of the lounge does look like a 6'x3'x3' arboreal viv would fit though. How many would fit in that?

lots lol.

[Ssthisto]

No, CO2 is not a *quick* way to humanely euthanise a reptile. It does work, and it does work without stressing the animal out - but it does take quite a long time for breathing to completely cease. I had a hatchling leo with a severely deformed jaw and eye that would not feed voluntarily - and I couldn't bring myself to force feed such a badly damaged little creature. It was quite a while ago, but I remember it did take a very long time before she stopped breathing. She didn't seem inordinately stressed at any time, and she did become unconscious and unresponsive after a number of minutes, but that's not the same thing as dead - if she'd been removed from the high-CO2 atmosphere, she'd have revived.

There really isn't a "pretty" way to kill a feeder reptile humanely AND quickly.

I would personally try scenting using a live male leopard/fat tailed gecko (they use the underside of their tails to scent territory, so rubbing a rodent on the underside of the tail makes sense) before going for anoles.

[naja-naja]

could you use anole tails until you get it feeding on rodents?
you could kil by breaking its neck with your hands <snap>

[Paulusworm]

Originally Posted by Ssthisto

No, CO2 is not a *quick* way to humanely euthanise a reptile. It does work, and it does work without stressing the animal out - but it does take quite a long time for breathing to completely cease. I had a hatchling leo with a severely deformed jaw and eye that would not feed voluntarily - and I couldn't bring myself to force feed such a badly damaged little creature. It was quite a while ago, but I remember it did take a very long time before she stopped breathing. She didn't seem inordinately stressed at any time, and she did become unconscious and unresponsive after a number of minutes, but that's not the same thing as dead - if she'd been removed from the high-CO2 atmosphere, she'd have revived.

There really isn't a "pretty" way to kill a feeder reptile humanely AND quickly.

I would personally try scenting using a live male leopard/fat tailed gecko (they use the underside of their tails to scent territory, so rubbing a rodent on the underside of the tail makes sense) before going for anoles.

The revival issue was my main concern with using the chamber. I'm not too fussed about the method being pretty just quick and humane. I like the gecko idea. Would I be aiming at rubbing the rodent around the area where the pores form an arrow/triangle?

[Ssthisto]

Nah, just the underside of the tail itself (rather than the body between the hindlegs) - that's what a leo wipes all over a new enclosure or a freshly cleaned one

As for quick and humane, the only fast humane way is instant obliteration of the brain - not decapitation (which absolutely is fast for the body - but the head/brain appear to remain conscious longer than an oxygen-hungry mammal or bird brain), but DESTRUCTION.

[Paulusworm]

Originally Posted by Ssthisto

Nah, just the underside of the tail itself (rather than the body between the hindlegs) - that's what a leo wipes all over a new enclosure or a freshly cleaned one

As for quick and humane, the only fast humane way is instant obliteration of the brain - not decapitation (which absolutely is fast for the body - but the head/brain appear to remain conscious longer than an oxygen-hungry mammal or bird brain), but DESTRUCTION.

Blunt, heavy object at high velocity then. Hopefully it won't come to that though. She has just shown quite a bit of interest in the rat fluff that has been marinating in tuna water all afternoon. Fingers crossed that she takes the drop feed.

[joeyboy]

maybe you could ask how feeder anoles are killing in America, since using them is the done thing.

[Ssthisto]

Originally Posted by joeyboy

maybe you could ask how feeder anoles are killing in America, since using them is the done thing.

Generally speaking, feeder anoles in America are killed by the snake that's going to eat them.

[C.Bruno]

try electricuting them?