new pet piranah

[kadeshi]

i am interested in keeping piranah.can anyone recommend good books and who sells them.

[reptile boy]

red bellied piranhas are good but borin if that makes sense, i have owned reds and rhoms and find that rhoms are much better and more agressive and arnt as skittish, so if you were after some tipe of piranha go for a rhom, black piranha exc and there is plenty about for very reasonable prices

[MJ75]

Agree with the above. You need a bog tank though. Don't be fooled by the little piranha you tend to find in LFS. Rhoms do grow big and need a lot of swimming space.

[ChloEllie]

lol i hate piranhas.
i love them and think they r bootiful fish...but they just sit there in their schoal....and thats it lol.

tbh get a tank and hang little pics of piranhas in it.
x

[soupdragon10]

I found that if you get the balance of plants/open water right red bellies will come into the open. Might be because my two are now 9" or so long, and not afraid of much.

They are useful too, as when my corns didn't want one of the defrosted mice the other night they polished it off in seconds. Not the most active of fish, but better than some catfish that you never see at all.

[Riff]

I have got various different piranha, red bellies, piraya,rhom and manueli among others but if i had to chose 1, it would be the manueli.
They dont all need huge tanks but the most important thing is the water quality. External filters are the best for these fish as they are quite dirty fish, especially shoals.
Most books now are a little outdated, there is far more information available on the interweb.

Hope this helps

[kadeshi]

thanks for advice.whats the smallest tank youd recommend.i dont have a lot of space as my boa tank takes up a lot.(6x3x3) and have 2 gsd dogs.can you keep one on its own,or do they like the company of others.i need to read and get as much info as i can before i get one or two .as thats my rule.people always ask me about snakes or spiders etc.i tell them to buy a book and if they say y.i say if you cant afford or be bothered to do that then you shouldnt have the animal.simple.any advice welome.

[Riff]

You could get a single red belly but it would probably hide away and the tank would look empty.
If it was me, i would look for a serrasalmus of some sort, sanchezi dont get to big, around 7 inch, and a 3ft tank would be ok for quite some time.
Small rhoms are ok, they tend to hide sometimes when small, again 3ft tank would be ok for a while, if you buy a small 5-6inch.
I would say the minimum size tank would be 3ft with an external filter, fluval 305 or simular.
Yes serras live alone,no tank mates at all.

[reptile boy]

Originally Posted by Riff

I have got various different piranha, red bellies, piraya,rhom and manueli among others but if i had to chose 1, it would be the manueli.
They dont all need huge tanks but the most important thing is the water quality. External filters are the best for these fish as they are quite dirty fish, especially shoals.
Most books now are a little outdated, there is far more information available on the interweb.

Hope this helps

hi i have being lookin at keepin manueli for some time are they much diffrent to rhoms, as carein for

[DAZZA68]

Hi

If you want a nice looking p then S.Maculatus is a good choice and not too big (7-9"). Nice gold colour and you might get lucky and it's agressive.
Look at getting a 36x15x15" min for any of the smaller serras/juvi pygos (although, you'll HAVE to upgrade for pygo shoals, rhoms, manueli).
If you want carnage you'll probably be disappointed with p's. Yes, shoals are aggressive, but as already mentioned, most ot the time they just "hang" out.
Still, love my diamond rhom.