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at a lower kh ammonia looses an ion turning it into the chemical compound ammonium which is a lot safer for fish with regards to toxicity, adding raw ammonia to a tank is madness, if ammonia levels are to high to begin with then ammonia will damage the bacteria that feed on it, i am all for finding a way to cycle a tank without risking fish health but adding raw ammonia, unless precisely and accurately measured is going to cause problems, using small amounts of fish food is much better, but for gods sake dont put raw ammonia into a fish tank!
the only way this would work is if someone out there has very reliable dosing instructions, and if you slip up then your gunna have to start again....and again...and again.... |
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it's not really that expensive, because you're only using one at a time.
yeah, the bacteria is growing in the filter, not the water. and then at the end you'll have lots of nitrate, which will kill your fish. that is why you do the large water change. ![]()
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Good post. Interesting discussion. For the record there is another way to build your filter bacteria - Adding your fish very slowly a few at a time. Boring if you want to be up and running straight away, but at least you have som fish to watch and if you really do take your time, then the levels never get too high.
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the best ways to start a tank are using a fishless cycle or filter cloning tbh anyone that cycles with fish has no business keeping fish imo. Ive kept tropicals for 25years and never once cycled a tank using fish. |
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![]() In order to try and save my fish, I had to do daily water testing, daily 50% water changes, add dissolved salt, Ammo-Lock - you name it, I did it! - for almost a month until both the ammonia and nitrite were zero and the tank was finally cycled. I only lost two fish during this period but several died in the weeks and months afterwards and I've no doubt that their health was compromised by having been through the cycling process. So IMO not only is the fishless cycle the humane method of setting up a tank, it's also the least hassle. You add your daily dose of ammonia, test the water and only do the large water change at the end of the cycle to remove the excess nitrates. It's a no-brainer really.
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i only found out about fish-less cycling recently, my local fish store recommended i start with some guppies and platies
all went well as it was about 6 fish in a large (about 90cm) tank, but y'know, fishless cycling its juts that much more humane, and faster from what i gather. fish flakes will not do as good a job because they need to broken down into other compounds (including ammonia) first by other bacteria. personally i think the best bet is ammonia and some sludge from an existing filter if you can get it. seed&feed
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