rspca

[Fangio]

Originally Posted by ratking

can i just ask mate is the house urs or is a council house i only ask cus a friend of mine who lived in a council propty had some shit with rspca but they couldnt do anything so they informed the council and he had to really downsize or risk losing his house so if i was u if uve only got 1 snake as apet id invite them in and prove it to them then tell em go get ed

Mine's council and I have permission for my reps. I know they're VERY underhand. I wouldn't personally give them the time of day. If the council wanna come check my animals are healthy then I'd happily let them in - RSPCA no way (also I have 6 snakes, 1 lizard, 1 cat and 3 rats lol).

[a.m.phibian]

I wouldn't mind the RSPCA coming to look at my animals - i have nothing to hide and am cynical as to why everyone should be so defensive and keen to keep them at arms length? All this ''refuse 'em entry'' business?. Sadly, the reality is, is that there are plenty of people out there who DON'T look after their reptiles etc in a satisfactory way...and if you can't report them to the RSPCA, then who do you report them to?. To me, they're a worthwhile organisation if they manage to rescue the odd iguana etc that is being kept in a manner that is far from acceptable...so...Should we be trying to stop this?.

[Fangio]

I have nothing to hide and would let anyone in who doesn't have an "agenda".

[exoticsandtropics]

yeah if yo have nothing to hide why hide it. let them in let thm look at your snakes and educate them.

[bribrian]

The thing with these people is that they're always looking for something wrong. If you let them in to look at your lovely healthy cornsnake in it's beautiful 3' viv then they'll condemn you for cruelty because it's not in a 6' one!!!!!!!!!

[essexchondro]

I wouldn't mind the RSPCA coming to look at my animals - i have nothing to hide and am cynical as to why everyone should be so defensive and keen to keep them at arms length? All this ''refuse 'em entry'' business?. Sadly, the reality is, is that there are plenty of people out there who DON'T look after their reptiles etc in a satisfactory way...and if you can't report them to the RSPCA, then who do you report them to?. To me, they're a worthwhile organisation if they manage to rescue the odd iguana etc that is being kept in a manner that is far from acceptable...so...Should we be trying to stop this?.

You may not have anything to hide, but the RSPCA are not an impartial observer only on the look-out for bad reptile keepers. They have a specific agenda which is that they want to do away with reptile keeping all together. That agenda requires them to find fault where there may in fact not be any. And lets not forget that finding fault is quite an easy thing to do when they don't really know too much about reptiles to start with. The RSPCA most definitely are not experts on reptiles, and yet they somehow wish to position themselves as "worth listening to" when it comes to reptiles and their care requirements.

[Fangio]

Originally Posted by essexchondro

You may not have anything to hide, but the RSPCA are not an impartial observer only on the look-out for bad reptile keepers. They have a specific agenda which is that they want to do away with reptile keeping all together. That agenda requires them to find fault where there may in fact not be any. And lets not forget that finding fault is quite an easy thing to do when they don't really know too much about reptiles to start with. The RSPCA most definitely are not experts on reptiles, and yet they somehow wish to position themselves as "worth listening to" when it comes to reptiles and their care requirements.

I couldn't have worded it any better if I'd spent a year trying! My thoughts EXACTLY

[ukreticnut]

Originally Posted by ian14

I would suggest that all that has happened is that the RSPCA have received a complaint, and, as a statutory body with investigative powers, the inspector has gone to the house, as he/she is LEGALLY required to do to investigate whether or not there is any substance to the complaint. As they got no answer, a calling card has been left.
Having worked with the RSPCA for many years in a professional capacity, I can assure you that they will not act illegally and are fully aware of their powers and the limit to them. They will gain nothing from acting illegally.
They have a duty to investigate all complaints.
At the end of the day, if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
In terms of from selling home, this would not be an RSPCA matter, but they do still have to look into it!
When it comes to herps, the RSPCA will almost always use an expert as they have little expertise themselves.

nope,
the local councils animal welfare department is the ONLY statutory body with investigative powers.
the rspca is a charity and as such should have fowarded this complaint onto the local council, but they wont cuz they think they are the police.

[essexchondro]

nope,
the local councils animal welfare department is the ONLY statutory body with investigative powers.
the rspca is a charity and as such should have fowarded this complaint onto the local council, but they wont cuz they think they are the police.

Exactly right!

Does anyone remember Mary Whitehouse, that "lovely" old lady that used to spend her days as a self-appointed moral vigilante trying to tell the BBC what they could and couldn't broadcast, and what we could and couldn't watch (so nice of her to tell us so we didn't have to bother thinking for ourselves, by the way!)? Well that's pretty much how I see the RSPCA.

[ukreticnut]

Originally Posted by ian14

WHY DO YOU ALL HAVE PROBLEM WITH AN ORGANISATION SETUP TO PROTECT ANIMALS????????????????

BECAUSE THE ONLY THING IT PROTECTS NOW IS NOT THE ANIMALS, BUT THE ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS WHO USE IT AS A NICE FRONT FOR THEIR ACTIVITIES. SOME OF WHICH SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED UNDER THE TERRORISM ACT.
THE RSPCA IS NO LONGER WHAT IT WAS SET UP TO BE. FACT.
NOT ONLY ARE ANIMAL RIGHT TERRORISTS JOINING THE MAIN FAKE ANIMAL POLICE "OFFICERS"
THEY RUN THE DAMN SHOW

Want to know my previos knowledge?? 20 years as a herpkeepr, worked at London Zoo, Cotswold Wildlife Park, Jersey Wildlife Preservation Trust, offered a 6 month placement at JWPT, a job as assistant curator of herps at Cotswolds, oh and a BSc Hons in zoolology. Along with being the DWA liaison officer forTVP, and a wildlife crime officer.

IT IS WORRYING THAT SOMEONE AS QUALIFIED AS YOU HONESTLY BELIEVES THE RSPCA HAVE POWERS WHICH THEY DONT.
THEY HAVE ABOUT AS MUCH POWER TO INVESTIGATE, INTERVIEW, CAUTION AND PROSECUTE AS GLADYS FROM THE SALVATION ARMY SHOP ACROSS THE ROAD
THEY ARE A CHARITY AND IT IS ILLEGAL FOR CHARITIES TO INFLUENCE LOCAL LAWS, NEVER MIND PRETEND TO ENFORCE THEM.