what is the traders forum?

[DeanThorpe]

erm... just found this..other thread was locked by tiem i wanted to say something..
anyway, I think the traders forum is a great idea, and to be honest, none of anyone elses business considering any secret private chats could be hosted virtually anywhere [msn, phone, other board] having it part of rfuk simply keeps some form of community...id have thought elimintaing "those bad shops" who dont even use the forum anyway from going to it...
Yet giving those who do use this forum, and are in the trade [or is it retailers forum? whatever] a section where they can talk business..

Surely its no more scary than being able to see "the mods lounge" and not know whats being said there?

anyway the entire thing made me giggle.
If its "on" then hope some good comes of it.

[stephenie191]

Theres a mod's lounge ?

Lets kick off about that

No i think anything that helps out, rep shops can only be a good thing

[snickers]

This is the first I've read about a trader's forum. I'm not sure it should be on here in full view, but 'private'. That sounds like elitism to me.

If you think a traders forum is a good idea, and it probably is, set up a private forum elsewhere, or just make sure it doesn't appear unless you are logged in with a suitable username.
Traders speak in private all the time, so a private forum is nothing to be paranoid about, but I wonder what is so important that traders feel the need to hide it from the people who pay their wages.

[stephenie191]

Originally Posted by snickers

This is the first I've read about a trader's forum. I'm not sure it should be on here in full view, but 'private'. That sounds like elitism to me.

If you think a traders forum is a good idea, and it probably is, set up a private forum elsewhere, or just make sure it doesn't appear unless you are logged in with a suitable username.
Traders speak in private all the time, so a private forum is nothing to be paranoid about, but I wonder what is so important that traders feel the need to hide it from the people who pay their wages.

Why would everyone care about their decor supplier's or them discussing electrical bills?

Over 18's is private but the under 18's don't moan on about it.

[DeanThorpe]

you just said yourself its better private than in full view...
so its not so much private as much as "simply private" and that doesnt imply theres anything to hide.

[snickers]

>Why would everyone care about their decor supplier's
>or them discussing electrical bills?

Why would traders want to keep discussions about their decor suppliers private?

Maybe we should have a private customers forum? Where only customers of a particular shop are welcome, but not the owners? We'd only discuss how nice your shop is of course, so no need for you to have access.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by snickers

This is the first I've read about a trader's forum. I'm not sure it should be on here in full view, but 'private'. That sounds like elitism to me.

If you think a traders forum is a good idea, and it probably is, set up a private forum elsewhere, or just make sure it doesn't appear unless you are logged in with a suitable username.
Traders speak in private all the time, so a private forum is nothing to be paranoid about, but I wonder what is so important that traders feel the need to hide it from the people who pay their wages.

I said that the other day LOL

and was told i was a childish idiot and immature..

BUT the most hilarious thing is the VERY thing i said would happen within hours of it being open happened..

people got into massive arguements and slagging matches and some tradres walked out in disgust

the silly thing is theres no legal privacy clauses.. so if my mate had a business he cold sign up and tel me everything that was happening so whats the REALpoint of keeping it al locked and secret .. as more traders join with more mates who r keepers whats to say they wont tell us whats happening...

im not saying it WILL happen..

but isnt it obvious when the fights and arguements start over there they wil be leaked anyways.. forums are bonkers as we all know..

they have a personality all of their own and each forumite can be vastly different on a forum than in real life..

ive met people from rfuk i thought id dislike and in fact i REALLY like them in real life etc

the dynamic of the forum i mentioned may change too... as snickers pointed out publically the feelings of actually a fair few rfukers ive spoken to is exactly this.....

i explained that from a phsycological point of view some of us mere mortals may feel strange about the BUSINESES being in some secret locked forum.. RFUK really isnt a business forum is it??? anyways i actualyl dont feel threatned or weird about it as per usual im being devils advocate and pointing out what COULD happen... thats all

Discussing how pet shops can be improved doesnt take a locked secret forum does it.. or am i missing something..

The problem is when you mix MONEY MAKING with ANIMAL CARE.. there wil always be MASSIVE issues.. and within the traders forum the issues become more extreme and more heated.... Business people can be just as arguementative and dramatic as the NON business people.. even more so as they have WAY more to lose...

the traders forum is an undiluted version i think of the main forums issues..

I actually saw some screen shots... which im being told im not supposed to tell anyone.. but actually why am i not..

because its NON RFUK Politicaly correct.. what am i meant to be portecting people i dont know ...


who knows. but it doesnt make sense

not good

also i know some VERY poor traders who were uncovered over the last few months ...... some where dead animals were being sent through the post etc... Now whats to say these traders cant vat register under a different name and sign up for the forum... HOW DOES THAT REMOTELY protectanimal welfare... its nonsense to think ALL TRADERS are as excellent as people like ATHRAVAN etc.. whom I know is a very caring concientious trader.... however all that said the traders forum headaches aint mine.. thanks goodness

bad and good traders alike can and wil access this forum and theres NO WAY of telling them apart ... i wouldnt be comfortable discussing MY BUISNESS on a forum space with traders whom id idnt have a clue who they were..

for al i know they could be fakers or liars... that is dealble with to an extent within the main forum of RFUK but its not something id be comfortable as a business person discussing openly with people who i cant be sure of..






anyway i dont really care what they do particularly i just wanted to play devils advocate and make them think about what MAY happen..
im not a trader so ive nothing to worry about and if it cauises ill feeling between the main forumites on the keppers part and the traders its also not my issue..


in fact all i wanted to do in the other locked was point out what COULD maybe happen..

the fyunny thing is there is a FEELING of seperatisms from some RFUKers..

whom im sure wil also be called silly and childish as i was..


the traders forums nothing to do with me i know

but dynamics and internet pshycology fascinate me...

so i guess im watching closely something i find fascinating...






ho hum eh???

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by snickers

>Why would everyone care about their decor supplier's
>or them discussing electrical bills?

Why would traders want to keep discussions about their decor suppliers private?

Maybe we should have a private customers forum? Where only customers of a particular shop are welcome, but not the owners? We'd only discuss how nice your shop is of course, so no need for you to have access.

I also said that too snickers and again was laughed at.,,,


trust me its a no win situation but if u were privvy to some of the stuff i know happened in the traders forum you REALLY wouldnt wanna be there...

SERIOUSLY

stay out here in the safe madness of what is RFUK UNLOCKED ZONE


lol


this thread wil only be locked again anyways


seems it was cool to ask in the main forum about the need for a traders forum... now its there were not MEANT to discuss it on the open forum..

[t-bo]

Originally Posted by sparkle

I also said that too snickers and again was laughed at.,,,

trust me its a no win situation but if u were privvy to some of the stuff i know happened in the traders forum you REALLY wouldnt wanna be there...

SERIOUSLY

stay out here in the safe madness of what is RFUK UNLOCKED ZONE

lol

this thread wil only be locked again anyways

seems it was cool to ask in the main forum about the need for a traders forum... now its there were not MEANT to discuss it on the open forum..

DRAMA!!!! I bet everyone wishes they knew what you did.

Im sure everyone really wants to partake in the boring discussions about suppliers and stuff. There is nothing political being discussed there, that idea never went ahead.

[sparkle]

Originally Posted by t-bo

DRAMA!!!! I bet everyone wishes they knew what you did.

Im sure everyone really wants to partake in the boring discussions about suppliers and stuff. There is nothing political being discussed there, that idea never went ahead.

i did suggest political agendas within the trader forum was a bad idea WAY back in the other thread.. i might talk crap a lot of the time but sometimes VERY rarely I do talk some sense...

good to know it didnt go ahead


not that in anyway anyone on here would ever take up one of my suggestions...




as far as i read it wasnt vat returns the issue was about the other day.. and a fair few of the members within the traders forum admitted there was bitching... how can there be bitching about tax returns...



it was a whole lotta slagging off.. which wasnt made up by me but admitted by trader members...

its interesting on a purely pshycological level...

thats all

Im sure it was nipped in the bud... but it was exactly what i was TRYING to say might happen in a micro-cosm of RFUK that was undiluted and therefore far more likey to cause issue..

you might think im a pain in the arse but the whole political thing was a REALLY bad idea and yet when i pointed that out in the other thread i was shouted down...

but it was decided anyway after I pointed the issues of politics within trade forum out.... you werent going ahead with it..

good decision me thinks...






ANYWAYS

thats my commoners psychology nonsense over

just glad youve ironed out all the trader forum issues